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Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:40 am
by Jacques
Not aware? Then gen up:
Now this reminds me of the program they did a few months ago that showed that estate agents are complete and utter cunts.
Where is the revelation?
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:40 am
by Ace
I have no problems with any manager taking a back hander. In business lots of it goes on whether its a bottle of scotch, a freebie holiday or tax free money.
Some (if not most) MPs get 'perks' which is just as bad as a back-hander.
But as I said, I have no problem with it.
Watching it last night, it was all hearsay and no evidence that Big Sam or Dodgy Harry took anything whatsoever.
Pissing in the wind as far as I'm concerned
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:51 am
by The Last Word
Excessive hot air and fancy presentation, but really nothing new.
A thoroughly bored-looking Harry Redknapp turing up for a meeting in his training ground clobber was the only suprise, sadly.
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:57 am
by Bob Singleton
What pisses me off are all the stories of "Chelsea tap up youngster" in the press today... as I recall, it was the AGENT who was offering the kid to all and sundry. Surely "tapping up" is when a club illegally approaches another club's player, not when an agent on the make asks "would you be interested?"
Furthermore "Accademy" players are not contracted (being under 17 years of age) so cannot be "tapped up".
Oh, and no mention of Liverpool in the reports, even though the kid was offered to them too!
Talk about a bias in the media against Chelsea! Same with Hansen on Monday saying Chelsea were lucky to win as Liverpool should have had a penalty... no mention of the penalty Chelsea should have had, or the fact that Liverpool should have had a man sent off long before Ballack was shown a red (ironically for fouling the Liverpool player who shouldn't have still been on the pitch!)
Fucking CUNTS!!!
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:12 am
by Ace
Thats Scousers for you Bob. Whining bastards
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:32 am
by crofter
I am pretty sure that a lot of the information that Panorama have on tape could not legally be shown to the public ... but it sure as hell will interest the F.A.
I would be interested in finding out who the manager was that was turning up to collect his other half of the ?100,000 he had got as a bung - I would hardly call that just a perk of the job Ace!!
Kind of figures that big Sam with all his mysterious "free" transfers of world class players would not come out smelling of roses .... but maybe his alleged greed cost him the England Job??
Looks like the excellent football drama featuring Ray Winstone as the corrupt manager and Danny Dyer as his football agent son might have been not too loosely based on somebody don't you think??
I bet big Sam didn't sit too comfortably during that showing!!
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:34 am
by Ace
crofter wrote:
>> Looks like the excellent football drama featuring Ray Winstone
> as the corrupt manager and Danny Dyer as his football agent son
> might have been not too loosely based on somebody don't you
> think??
>
> I bet big Sam didn't sit too comfortably during that showing!!
I think it was loosley based on Alex Ferguson and his dodgy agent son Darren.
Mind you, it was a great TV film, now they should re-run it in light of current events
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:11 pm
by Bob Singleton
crofter wrote:
[SNIP]
I would be interested in finding out who the manager was that was turning up to collect his other half of the ?100,000 he had got as a bung
[SNIP]
The clues were there for all to see...
Major London club
Manager speaks French (agent talked about manager not wanting to meet two people, especially one he didn't know, in case it was a "piege"... the French for trap!)
African player joining in Jan 2006 transfer window.
As far as I can tell the only major London club with a French-speaking manager is Arsenal, and they bought Abou Diaby in January from Auxere.
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:20 pm
by Bob Singleton
The following is from SoccerNet:
Auxerre vice-president Gerard Bourgoin has revealed young midfielder Vasiriki Abou Diaby visited both Arsenal and Chelsea before deciding to join Arsene Wenger's side.
The 19-year-old looks set to sign for the Gunners in a deal believed to be worth around ?2million after the French club revealed they had agreed to the sale on Thursday.
Bourgoin told L'Equipe Diaby spent Wednesday in London meeting officials from Arsenal and Chelsea, with Wenger proving the decisive factor.
'The choice belonged to Diaby, but Wenger was better than (Jose) Mourinho, that's all,' Bourgoin said.
Diaby has made only six league appearances and played twice in the UEFA Cup for Auxerre this season due to a niggling injury.
Bourgoin claimed Diaby was being sold as he is surplus to requirements at the Abbe-Deschamps.
'We have always kept the young players which our coach wanted to use,' he said.
'But Diaby did not play, so this was a strategic sale for us.'
However, coach Jacques Santini seemed disappointed to be losing another player after striker Benjani Mwaruwari moved to Portsmouth last week.
'My managers sell. After Benjani and Diaby, I should maybe expect some more departures,' said the former France and Tottenham coach.
'Abou was one of the players I used at the start of the season and then he had to stop because of repetitive injuries.
'Maybe he was attracted by England and the money there. This probably did not force him to make all the necessary efforts to come back to his best level with us.'
PA International
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The interesting thing is that he is "surplus to requirements" at Auxerre, yet seen as a long term replacement to Vierra by Wenger, as can be seen from the following article in The Mail:
Arsene Wenger feels French Under-19 international Vasiriki Abou Diaby has the potential to fill Patrick Vieira's midfield role at Arsenal.
Wenger was delighted to have landed a player he feels can add an extra dimension to his squad.
Vieira - for so long Wenger's midfield enforcer - left for Juventus in the summer, but the Gunners boss sees in Diaby many of the same traits as the former Arsenal captain.
"I like his potential, his physical power, the fact that he can win a fight in the middle of the park and the fact that he's good going forward as well," said Wenger.
"He can be a complete midfielder. Of course he has to develop, but there is a real, real potential there. People compare him a little bit with Vieira because he has a similar stature.
"He is a little bit of a different player, but Patrick is a good role model for him; to model himself on Patrick would be in my opinion a good idea because he has that kind of stature and strength."
Wenger declared: "He is young, but he can make quick progress and I feel he is ready for the fight."
The fee is believed to be in the region of ?2million, and Auxerre revealed Diaby rejected advances from Chelsea to sign a four-year deal with the Gunners.
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So a young player with the potential to be the next Patrick Vierra is "surplus to requirements" at a smaller club? Now if that's not fishy, I don't know what is!
Re: Panorama last night
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:53 pm
by Pervert
Has no one ever totted up the amount of players bought by Messrs Rednapp and Allardyce in the last few years? Every time 'arry moves to a new club, he buys at least half a dozen players asap----even when he returned to his old stomping ground at Portsmouth, after a short holiday along the coast at Southampton, he needed a major amount of players to improve the squad (the bulk of which he was responsible for).
How much is to do with improving the team and how much to do with finances (club ticket and shirt sales, or management and scouting team "incentives" for transfers)?
Oh, and reckon Bob is right about le French connection.