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War in the falklands
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:55 pm
by BeestonBoy
Hey all!!
Just been watching some stuff on the Falklands war (Or conflict) and was amazed by the public support and confidence in the whole thing. Which was rightly so im my opinion (and this is ONLY MY opinion) But it left me thinking if this was too happen again would the people of Britain still feel the same way? or have the recent millitary involvments in things that too be honest have nothing to do with us,left people with a deep mis trust of defending our own soverign land?
Cheers
BB
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:14 pm
by Pervert
The Falklands. Ah yes, that war in the south Atlantic where our good allies and bestest friends the Americans remained . . . . neutral, so they wouldn't upset the pathetic bunch of Hitler, Goering and Bormann wannabes they'd kept propped up in Argentina. You know, the nice people that made the opposition disappear.
The war could easily have been avoided, but the fresh Thatcher government was enforcing cuts in the armed services at the time. Specifically the navy (minister Keith Speed resigned in protest). Galtieri and chums saw the removal of British patrols in the area as a tacit agreement that they could make a move. A few drunk fishermen ran up the national flag in South Georgia, and the bosses in Buenos Aires thought, let's go the whole hog.
They'd tried a similar move some years before, but sunny Jim Callaghan and Denis Healey got a few warships into the area to scare them off (supposed Foreign Secretary David Owen was given some paper and a few crayons to keep him happy).
It's worth looking back at some of the newspapers from just before the conflict started. Thatcher was almost as unpopular as an anthrax enema at the time. Once the Bennys had been liberated, though, much of middle Britain thought the sun shone out of her arse.
Was it right or wrong to fight that war? Once they'd invaded, the war had to be declared. And once the troops had been mobilised, and Thatch saw how popular the action was to the great British public, there was no way Sandy Hague was going to be allowed to broker a diplomatic solution.
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:56 am
by Ace
Several times Thatcher used the military for a PR stunt. The SAS at Iranian Embassy was the first she used for a 'No one fucks with ME in charge!' and Caractacus is correct in she used the Falklands as an excuse to send in the hardware and at the same time, generatin mass appeal for her then, unpopularity.
There are several other instances where the Army was used, but it was hushed up and declared rumours, but there were a few that have surfaced namely using Para's and other psychotic army types in police uniform and mixing with the police when the miners and police fought pitched battles in the 1984 miner strike. Some of those miners came off very bad considering they were involved in scuffles.
Another is a Scottish Prison Riot in the mid-80's when SAS were sent in posing as police and gave the rioters 'something to think about' and restored the prison within 10 minutes. The OFFICIAL line is it WAS the police, but anyone who has served in HM Armed Forces knows otherwise !wink!
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:00 am
by Ace
Oh, I have worked at 22 Reg in Hereford (SAS), and been in the Mess and believe me, there are several pics of the SAS and Maggie at functions, these pictures don't exsist 'officially', but its well known that these lads were unofficially classed as 'Maggies Boys' and were ready to be mobilised at a telephone call direct from her..........sidestepping the Defence Secretary
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:12 pm
by mark cremona
yeah, that business with the IRA in Gibralter, not saying they didnt deserve it though, but didnt some TV Program here do a doco on that only for Thatch's boys to come round and put their door in and remove the evidence ? what was that story all about ?
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:21 pm
by Ace
The 'official line' with incidents like this Mark is:
'Breach of Official Secrets Act threatening National Security'
You'd be suprised how many governments use that line
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:53 pm
by Pervert
Listen to Not Now, John from The Final Cut----pretty much sums up the feeling of the early 1980s.
Thatch was loved by some parts of society because a battlefield victory gave them a sense that Britain was great once more. As for her, it gave her the chance to indulge all Tories' wet dream and be Churchillian.
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:04 pm
by Rude Boy
"Listen to Not Now, John from The Final Cut----pretty much sums up the feeling of the early 1980s."
I do hope you have cleared this with Arnold Layne before posting!
Seriously....a brilliant, brilliant album.
Re: War in the falklands
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:38 pm
by tommy dickfingers
we were right to retake the falklands,those people are uk citizens and the islands are uk property too,as for what happened in gibraltar they did the only job they could, protecting uk people from terrorists.