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There is only a few days left to register your objection to the `Pay as you go` road tax. The petition to sign is on No 10's website (address below)

The government`s proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about ?200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was ?28 for a rural florist and ?194 for a delivery driver. A non working mother who used the car to take the kids to school paid ?86 in one month.

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time you can probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your monthly bill.

If you care about our freedom and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10`s website.

I applaud your actions, But i fear it will be in vain as the driving force (no pun intended) for this comes from our masters in Brussels. As part of the EU'S remit to waste as much of our money as possible, They plan to reinvent the wheel by having there own GPS system of 30 satellites (GALILEO) to keep an eye on all you good citizens of new europa.

Until people wake up to the fact that our national Parliament is little more than a parish council and decide to claim back our democracy then i am afraid you are wasting your time. !furious!


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GALILEO will offer the possibility to implement new and more advanced methods of user-friendly road charging: charge for the use of particular roads at particular times with particular vehicles, or charge users travelling in a certain urban zone, according to the distance driven. Although there are other techniques for road tolling, only satellite navigation leads to a reliable seamless service thus avoiding isolated system implementation which puts a burden on user equipment.
The vehicle will use GALILEO to determine its location and to store the distance driven on every type of road (charged or free). Then it reports the results to a monitoring centre for a central charging entity to invoice the user. This would work on both inter-urban and urban roads.
A GALILEO-based solution avoids expensive investments in roadside equipment and avoids traffic jams at traditional toll plazas. New charging policies will allow better demand management. For this type of application, GALILEO will offer reliability and the possibility of tracing its performance in disputed cases. It will also provide a common standard for road charging.

Are you an UKIP puppet/muppet?

GALILEO is nothing more than a European run version of GPS. GPS is run by the Americans- it is a US Government run system.

I've nothing against the US- but I'm European, not American.

People like you should stop spreading the paranoid rubbish that you have on other sites.

"People like you should stop spreading the paranoid rubbish"

Er, hang on a minute. Are you saying that the Galileo project is a figment of johnsix's imagination? Are you saying that it won't cost millions (or billions for all we know) of our hard earned wedge? Are you saying that it's propose is not so that those arrogant, poncy, elitist Eurocrats and British bureaucrats can, independently of the United States, monitor us, track us, tax us, and generally fuck us over as and when they see fit? It seems to me that is exactly what it is for. So, that begs the question - why would you seek to pooh-pooh this issue and decry anyone who raised concerns about it? Hey, what's your game colonel and who are you working for?


Officer Dibble

But we need to do something.

I live in South Birmingham and need to go to London now and again (relatives).

When I started going to London 20 years ago my route was mostly rural as it was the only way to get there (Stratford, Banbury etc).

The only motorway was the section from Oxford to London. So at the time the journey to London was something you avoided.

About 15 years ago they built the M40, which goes all the way from where I live to London. When it first opened it was fairly quiet.

Last week I had to drive to from Birmingham to London between about 7am and 9am on a Monday morning.

I was AWFUL, there were thousands of people travelling down the M40, and it was nose to tail on all 3 lanes for much of the journey.

Where have they all come from, why do THOUSANDS of people have to travel south from Birmingham to Oxford or London, when 15 years ago they did not.

The improvement of motorway networks, in such a small country as the UK, has encoraged people to make journeys they would not have made in the past.

MANY of these journeys are not needed and could easily be achieved by phone calls, conference calls, electronic based meetings or whatever.

We coped a few years ago when planes were grounded after 9/11, we coped a few years ago when there was the petrol shortage.

We need to do SOMETHING to stop this lemming like desire to drive all over the place by car when often if is not needed

If in car pricing is one solution then so be it.

Please feel free to read the link i posted from the Galileo website.
I'm not a member of UKIP, But for my sins i did vote to stay in the common market, something i now bitterly regret. I never voted to export the democratic control of my country to a supra national body.
Perhaps you like the authoritarian and unaccountable control now being exercised over every aspect your life, I for one do not.

biggest problem with all this is that it comes back to one word TAX. Even if the the tax was sky high people will still need to travel......

Its like the extra ?5 "green TAX" old one eye put on aircraft leaving the UK....WHY ?? that money will not go to help the climate change, but will help the big hole in this goverments figures...

My idea for motoring would be to put tax up by a set figure on petrol, get the pump to display i.e 35p petrol + tax + vat = ?1.22 per litre....BUT stop car tax straight the way.............you then pay as you drive, which to me is the cheapest way of getting EVERYONE to pay the same... even the local polish workers !

Von Boy, that's too sensible for it to happen! !wink!

I agree, people are lazy these days.

I don't agree with the tracking though. It's just spying. I don't actually mind cameras in public places etc. as it's also a safety measure, but tracking every metre of tarmac you've driven? It's too much.

As Von Boy points out, tax on petrol would do the same thing but without the spying...