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One reason why the state is keen to have a "violent pornography" law is because governments make films in their various theatres of war that depict torture or even death. An acquaintance of mine in Holland was offered such a film filmed in Bosnia that had been copied from an official government film unit. Also in the Sixties a corrupt police officer actually sold imagery that depicted sexual torture and murder that he had copied from Scotland Yard's forensic department.
It is governments who possess the bulk of such material and it is governments who commit violent crimes and make visual records of them in wartime.

For example in 1945 the Japanese made snuff films of teenage girls being dissected alive on the orders of the Emperor who then was sent copies of the films in order to cater to his horrific sadistic desires.

Increasingly this incriminating evidence is finding its way onto the net. The said bill would make it illegal to possess such visual records.
Mike Freeman

was that Emperor Hirohito?eroticartist wrote:

> One reason why the state is keen to have a "violent
> pornography" law is because governments make films in their
> various theatres of war that depict torture or even death. An
> acquaintance of mine in Holland was offered such a film filmed
> in Bosnia that had been copied from an official government film
> unit. Also in the Sixties a corrupt police officer actually
> sold imagery that depicted sexual torture and murder that he
> had copied from Scotland Yard's forensic department.
> It is governments who possess the bulk of such material and
> it is governments who commit violent crimes and make visual
> records of them in wartime.
>
> For example in 1945 the Japanese made snuff films of teenage
> girls being dissected alive on the orders of the Emperor who
> then was sent copies of the films in order to cater to his
> horrific sadistic desires.
>
> Increasingly this incriminating evidence is finding its way
> onto the net. The said bill would make it illegal to possess
> such visual records.
> Mike Freeman
>
>
>

Violent porn!? Where is it?! I've seen worse in the likes of Hostel and The Hills Have Eyes remake.

Even that site about brutal violence featured a girl I worked with for Real Couples and she loved role playing a victim as she wanted vigorous sex. She found it fun. She consented to it and would do it again.

Sure I've heard of violent porn but even Max Hardcore maybe not to everyones taste, certainly not to mine but the way I see it, I'll still defend the Maxs and the whoevers who push the boundaries simply because I talk to the girls and very rarely do I hear that the guy they made this video for is an arse hole.

To be honest, the most questionable of porn reminds me of the hypocrisies we find with our selves with regards to this subject. Some who lothe it have beaten off a spunk shot the hardest about it then hate themselves for it like they are guilty or something.

I think this kind of docuimentation is important. Porn doesnt have to be pretty. In fact, like real life it can be ugly and fucking horrible. Porn has surpassed wank material, its now a form of entertainment like: Look at that skinny geeky bloke with glasses fucking that gi-normous fat bird with your mates swigging lagers on a friday evening.

In fact violent porn is only made by those who are frustrated with watching normal porn the same way people are fed up with The English Patient would find Hostel an anethema to that film.

In fact like a lot of extreme things , people need to go through that phase like I did with reading books on serial killers when I was younger. I was fascinated with how people can commit such evil acts for virtually no reason other than to fulfil their own selfish warped needs. I've come through that and have no interest in it now.

Sure the kind of porn that should be banned in my mind and consider illegal is the stuff that people havent consented to, havent provided releases and ids having their bollocks hammered into tables and other horrible stuff.

was there not a guy years ago who advertised he was going to cut off his dick on a webcast and asked people to sign up to watch it? If thats his choice, then so be it. But if you subscribe to it then bitch about ho wimmoral that man was, then frankly you are just as bad as him.

Where are they going to draw the line as well. Ban violent porn you might as well ban violent films too nd that means no more movies like Hostel or whatever.

Oooh! (seething) dont get me started!

Yes Steve and as the Japanese regarded him as a living god his orders could not be disobeyed on pain of death.
Mike.

well i could never understand duke of edinburgh going to his funeral in the 80s..

Phil the Greek had to go to Hirohito funeral because monarchies are a dying breed (hopefully) and they have got to stick together in their decline.

Not only did he go but he bowed to the coffin as well.

The yanks sent someone (it wasn?t the President though), and there was something said by the Japanese because the US representative didn?t bow in front of the box.

Being charitable though, I recall that at the time it was said that Phil had to go and show ?respect? otherwise it could damage Anglo / Japanese trade relations.

I remember though the Dutch government weren?t represented.

They didn?t send anyone, either from the government or their Royal Family.

The Dutch suffered dreadfully under the Japanese in Java and the Dutch East Indies and they decided they didn?t want to send anyone to say cheerio to old bastard.

Shame us Brits are such a bunch of spineless wimps when it comes to things like this.

The australians never went either or sent anyone .

Spider wrote:

Shame us Brits are such a bunch of spineless wimps when it comes to things like this.

I'd call that politics. The british play this game better than any country I know. In fact the brits have to be admired for a lot of things. Politics is definitely amongst them.

I'd have more respect for Phil if he'd flicked the"V" to the coffin instead of bowing to it!

they were barbaric the japs a film based on a true story was shown on ch4 recently called "Three Came "Home"