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The guy's been pissing me off for a long time with his attitude.

He's not had a good game for over a year, he shouts down every decision by a ref and even tried to take the red card out of the refs hand on Sunday! Should refs just not bother turning up and let JT run the fucking matches from now on?

Then there's the 9 year contract with a clause to manage the club when he gets to 35.........though that bit was rejected. He also took offence at Jose questioning his fitness when Jose asked the medical staff. What's the guy on? Jose was the fucking manager and if Jose wants to get a medial opinion on one of his players then surely that's allowed?

Not only does JT want to officiate games, he also wants to decide on his own fitness.

I've never seen JT have a good game for England either, and has never replicated his form for England like he played for Chelsea.

He seems to becoming a cocky, disruptive influence and I'd have Woodgate in beside Ferdinand, while giving the captaincy to Gerrard.

Yes I noticed him trying to pull the red card out the refs hand, I can only think if he was johnny foreigner (and not Johnny Terry) he would have a lot of the media on his case saying "that is not how we act here son" and promptly having the book thrown at him, but strangely not even a murmur on "MOTD" or any of the papers.

JT is far better than Rio and injury prone Woodgate.
He is riled as his chosen and preferred centreback with him was sold to Arsenal last year (William Gallas). Althogh Ricardo Carvalho is a more than adequate replacement.
Ben Haim is a cart horse that JT has to carry if you ask me, as well as some of the replacements in Essien, Ferrier as 'last resort' choices when others are crocked.

[quote]JT is far better than Rio and injury prone Woodgate.[/quote]

That's your opinion. I thought Terry had a decent season under Ranieri, and then 2 excellent seasons under Mourinho, while average last and this year. Rio has been consistently good for over 8 years.

Rio & Cambell were voted as the best centreback partnership of the 2002 world cup, and I thought Rio looked the more composed and better defender in last years world cup too, compared to Terry.

Ferdinand is infamous for the odd lapse of concentration, but remember that Man Utd defenders are usually more exposed to attack than Chelsea and Liverpool defender as their midfield's are narrower and more compact, while Man Utd's attacking play leaves their defenders more vulnerable and open. I think Terry may be 'found out' in an attack minded team.

As for Woodgate: Indeed a guy that's suffered with injuries, but he reads the game as well as anyone, is more committed in the tackle than Rio, and playing for a mediocre side, has more work to do than Terry/Rio. I think if he's in good form, and fit, then he should be in the England squad.

At least Woody and Rio wouldn't have gobbed off at their managers just because he was enquiring about their fitness. How unprofessional is that from Terry? I think Terry has had 2-3 really good seasons and now believes the media hype about him being one of the best centrebacks in the world.

He looks 'dodgy' in an England shirt, and I'm still waiting for him to have a good game.

Don't think it's anything to do with being a foreigner or not as I think if it had been Rooney, Pennant, Bowyer then we'd have heard about it. It just seems that JT has been cut a lot of slack in the media over the years.

I also remember someone else trying to take a card out of the refs hands once, and I'm sure it was an Arsenal player (so he couldn't have been British).

I think Fifa forgot to insert a rule about 'mugging the ref' as they never thought it would happen. He'll be after the radio mics next and be selling them in some dodgy car boot sale.

Sam Slater wrote:

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> I also remember someone else trying to take a card out of the
> refs hands once, and I'm sure it was an Arsenal player (so he
> couldn't have been British).

You thinking of when Gazza 'carded' the ref at Rangers after he dropped the card?
Good on ya Gazza!!

Put Woody, Rio and JT on the transfer market today, and I imagine you'd be lucky to get ?12m for Woody, ?22m for Rio whereas JT would be a ?30m player

The Gazza one was hilarious, here it is for anybody that aint seen it:

lmao.

I would certainly take John Terry before Rio, at least with Terry you know what his strengths and weaknesses are, but with Rio he really is just an accident waiting to happen, as for Woodgate that really is a bit of a joke as he has been on the treatment table for almost the last 5 years, I suppose with him and Owen up front England would have some team!!

[quote]with Rio he really is just an accident waiting to happen,[/quote]

People have been saying that for 8 years. When is this accident coming then? Seriously, Terry would be found out in a team who's philosophy wasn't keeping a strong, narrow, compact midfield in front of him.

He's good in the air, and committed in the tackle, but so is Carragher. Rio is more comfortable in possession, a better passer, has more pace, and gives less fouls away to the opposition.

Terry has tons of protection at Chelsea. Put him in a team like Newcastle, Man Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Barcelona or Real Madrid, where the teams commit more players going forward, and he'd be exposed big time.