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In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:26 am
by Allan Apologist
I really don't see why you all find Allan so repugnant. Apart from the stupid Pokemon/cheap airline ticket metatag thing, which I agree is offensive, his main crimes in the eyes of the bgafd crowd appear to be: a) having a badly designed website, which is something he has in common with just about everyone else in the porn business; and b) daring to try and actually make porno films.

Most people seem to focus on the latter, and try to take the piss out of the guy simply for wanting to make porn. Well, at one time there was a guy called Steve Perry going around saying he wanted to make porn, and look at him. Probably the only reason people throw brickbats Allan's way is that they are secretly envious that he has the get-up-and-go to give it a try; this being something they'd love to do but can't or daren't or just won't.

Whatever their reasons, do the Allan-baiters really need reminding that without guys who are willing to stand up off their fat arses and put their money and time into making adult films, there would actually be no porn?

Imagine that. Come on, I know there must be other Allan sympathisers out there.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:44 am
by Strand
It has nothing to do with his site design or the fact that he wants to make films.
This is about the way he goes about promoting his sites and his silly remarks.

"a) having a badly designed website, which is something he has in common with just about everyone else in the porn business;"

The above remark is the sort of thing one would expect from Allen. I am sure there are a good few webmasters out there who would be insulted by that remark. If people join any site it is for the content and not for the site design..but it does help if the site is tidy and busy.
You appear to have missed the whole point of the previous thread.

The use of Keywords that kids use when surfing is not acceptable. There are too many people trying to shut down porn from the internet, lets not give them fuel.

I understand that the offending keywords have been removed by Allen. Well done.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:46 am
by TheProf
Some Fatherly advice from an old Pro-DON'T talk about it,get on with it,you conduct this business in secret..
You are dealing with a very 'grey area'here,the authortities keep a very close eye on all sites on the internet.
I know from experience..
From the old wartime slogan:Dangerous talk,cost lives..
If your going to do something..do it!
I cannot be fairer than that...
...otherwise you ruffle everyone's feathers as they say in this trade...and can meet dire consequences.
TheProf.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:54 am
by Allan
Thank you.

I have removed the meta tags from and , which I admin were nicked from another site (gosh, big crime).

Yes the sites are basic, but so what!!! They are quick to load, and I never said I was a web designer.

I have been making porn for a while now, but mostly stills. But due to a change in law, equipment getting cheaper and so on, I am turning now to films.

No, these will not be the zillion dollor budget films such as private, so what. I have been asked a lot for basic, good quality fun porn. These films are more fun that hard core. Thats my market.

If you feel I am a con, then how come I have sites full of porn? If? If I was a con, I would not have any evidence would I?

To be honest, the post people post about mer, I find funney. I could not in any way be bothered by people who (a) cannot make a coment with out it being an insult, (b) not using a real email address, (c) never shot a film or photographs of porn in there lives. Sorry, I am no pro, but at least I have done some stuff.

Allan

Thanks for the kind words, I am off out with the dog while its nice out.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:59 am
by Allan
By that post I just posted is full of errors. Sorry about that.

"I admin were nicked " should have read I admit, thats what you get when you type quick.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:06 am
by jgilby
Agree with A Apologist, provided the films Allan wishes to make are all above board, and any models he uses are treated correctly, where's the problem. I can't stand all these 'old school' pornographers who think they have sole rights to everything. So what if Allan's websites are a bit flakey, I am sure he will, revise them as time goes on. Good luck to him, that's what I say. There's nothing wrong with anyone offering advice and constructive criticism, but this attitude of the looking down there nose at Allan, is well out of order.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:22 am
by Zipper
You all have your own opinions but one thing I would point out. This guy has been going around for a few years, to the point that Mr Perry was a beginner, yes but he eventually did something of merit; this guy does not, has not, perhaps may not event achieve a pass.

He was a plauge on BBs populated by photographers, and caused a few to close down because of his inane posting, some of which you have had here, although I admit that he has not been as stupid as he can be.

If I can take the web site thing for the moment. Anyone who forgets, does not realise that they have done something wrong by copyrighting someones name for their own profit is guilty, and they are guilty of a con. I could put Bendover or Microsoft as one of the keywords on sites that I design but that would be fraud; deception is a better word.

No one, not even me would bash anyone for having a go, in fact I have helped one or two people to get started by offering advice, and I have not wanted anything in return; I am glad to see people improve at anything they do.

Which brings me back to his nibs. Self promotion, stupid questions (or half baked ones) are best left off this board. If someone wants to champion him, then I can only suggest that email contact would be the better bet.

I rest my case yer Honour.

Zip

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:44 am
by Ace
And dollor (as in $) is spelt D_O_L_L_A_R

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:08 pm
by woodgnome
this thread is now closed.

Re: In defence of Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:23 pm
by Allan Apologist
Cheers. I acknowledge the suspicion that Allan may well be all mouth and no spangly jockstrap. However, even if it's true that he's been around for a few years and hasn't put out anything of value, that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't genuine and nor does it necessarily mean he's stupid.

There could have been any number of reasons for his lack of output - possibly including the fact that nobody takes him seriously, or possibly simply because he's a slow learner. All that matters is that when he posts looking for models, he's genuine about it - and of course that when any girls respond, he treats them right. Until I see any evidence that he's broken either of those rules, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for his past crimes on other boards, well those who have witnessed them will obviously take them into account. Me, I've only seen what he's written here and none of it seems particularly stupid. Maybe he's learned his lesson. Whatever, benefit of the doubt applies again.

Maybe we should all be slightly less judgemental. And I agree entirely with jgilby's sentiment - there's nothing worse than an old porn hand who forgets where he's come from and thinks he's the only one who'll ever know how to make porn.

Yours,

John Rimbaud (you knew it was me, didn't you?)