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Another issue that Rod Liddle was fretting over this Sunday was immigrant labour and the fact that we have been both shafted and lied to by government, middleclass PC types, and the TUC (who are elected and paid to stand up for their UK member's interests ? not those of immigrant workers). Apparently, Rod?s been doing some digging and has discovered that if an immigrant is not carrying 144,000K in cash when he or she arrives on our doorstep, Joe Taxpayer will end up subsidizing them one way or another. Take it away, Rod?

?The mass influx of foreign labour from eastern Europe has meant that 525,000 fewer British-born people are in work today than in 2003, according to figures from the Commons library.
It may be that those Brits no longer working are, according to popular perception, bone idle. Or simply unwilling to scrabble around in the dirt for a pittance and live six to a room like their new competitors.
Whatever the truth, the rest of us will be paying for their benefits. A recent study suggested that for Polish plumbers and Kosovan potato pickers to add to the wealth of this country, they would have to bring with them ?144,000 of capital ? but this didn?t take account of the cost of unemployment occasioned among indigenous Brits.
The idea that we should open our doors to unlimited cheap immigrant labour was sold to us as being a necessity, with an ageing population. It was a lie and it is to the TUC?s enormous discredit that, for reasons of political correctness, it offered no opposition. The financial ? and social ? cost is with us now.?






Officer Dibble

[quote]It may be that those Brits no longer working are, according to popular perception, bone idle. Or simply unwilling to scrabble around in the dirt for a pittance[/quote]

What can I say? He may have a point, although under the last Conservative government, the word 'pittance' in financial terms meant ?29.50 a week for 38 hours on a training scheme for the kiddies, and about ?4 an hour average for your local builder/tradesman (if they could find work at all).

Labour's 'pittance' in financial terms has more than doubled for adults, and quadrupled for school leavers, so any Brits who aren't working now is due to bone idleness.

"the word 'pittance' in financial terms meant ?29.50 a week for 38 hours on a training scheme for the kiddies"

?29.50 a week! They didn't know they were born. When I started (1975) is was ?11.50 a week!


"so any Brits who aren't working now is due to bone idleness."

Maybe so. In my experience those who really want to work or make some dough can ALWAYS find themselves something to do.



Officer Dibble

[quote]?29.50 a week! They didn't know they were born. When I started (1975) is was ?11.50 a week![/quote]

Exactly, so the journo you quoted was wrong if he was suggesting some Brits weren't working because of financial 'pitance' is all I'm pointing out.

As for the Poles, well, they've been a good thing in most cases. Five years ago plumbers took the piss, turning up when they wanted, if at all, and charged you ?100 to take a shit in your bog and then piss off for two weeks to Majorca. With the Poles here, they magically turn up the day you call them, they take their shoes off, and are magically very polite, getting the job done in a 10th of thew time. Of course, I know the Poles, in certain areas can outcompete the Brit plumbers, but I feel that that's through placement. These workers should be put where they're needed most, rather than being dumped in the big cities.

I say open the flood gates and let them all in...skilled...unskilled...They all add value to the economy simply because they consume as we do
If they work then they pay taxes

As long as the employers don't use it as an excuse to significantly lower wages as a few in australia have tried to do I can't see the problem

Many blue collar indiustries are screaming out for apprentices
yet you will still find queues down the local unmemployment office full of people looking for work.Something in that equation doesn't make sense to me

If you don't limit Government welfare then the bone idle will never change

Another good one in Asutralia is that any new migrant must be able to support themsleves for at least the first 3 years-no assistance

Maybe the American model is best...9 months on unemployment(immigrant or local) and then your on your own...it gives you a clear incentive to take a job of any description and stop playing the welfare paper game

I know sombody who works at a Tesco distribution centre, the vast majority of the warehouse staff are eastern european.
In november imigration staff raided the distribution centre near Lakeside,Essex.They went in just between shift changes and caught 127 people who shouldnt have been in the country!!

so as they say every little helps eh ?

well if they are a bit emptier then the food miles will be less wont they!!

warren zevon rip wrote:


> Let's not have anyone actually working in this country - the
> dole-scrounging, rottweiler-owning, benefit-frauding BNP voters
> may begin to feel out-numbered and decide to start earning a
> living.
>


Hellfire! WZR is talking sense too- the BNP voters are the bastards who've never done a legal day's work in their lives.