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Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:05 pm
by Sam Slater

Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:10 pm
by Sam Slater
Shit, I posted too early.

Holy Offensive 2
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Anyway, we're all on a porn related forum, which only exists through liberalism. Who wins the above war?

The right to offend, or the right to be guarded from offense?


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:14 pm
by Trumpton
I think we are living in a society, of course encouraged by the all encompassing PC lobby, where people are seeking out to be "offended" when in fact none existed.


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:26 pm
by Sam Slater
The PC lobby does mostly good things Trumpy. Without them in the past, would we have pretty girls who take their clothes off for a living being able to walk the streets without being spat at, or arrested?

The PC lobby is good, but they can get things wrong, or overstep the line like us all.

As for not really being offended: Well we can't really tell, but does it matter? We all get offended at times, but we don't go setting fires to things, smashing buildings or killing people. I offended you by calling you a hairy gorilla so you set fire to my house and threaten my family? Surely my right to be safe is a bigger right than yours of not being offended? The crime doesn't fit the punishment.

People must be a little offended or why would they bother complaining? The point is that their feeling of offence is their problem. It's a feeling like happiness and anger, and should be dealt with inside their own minds.


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:39 pm
by Trumpton
Sam Slater wrote:

>We all get offended at times, but we don't go setting fires to
> things, smashing buildings or killing people.

No WE don't, but there is an increasing proportion of the populace who are being urged to use these extreme tactics to protest about how they've been "offended".


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:31 pm
by myson
In the UK we are supposed to enjoy "freedom of speech" of either the spoken or written word (as long as it doesn't slander/libel anyone).

Of course, we all know that this "freedom" is being curtailed and censored bit by bit because the government and other mealy mouthed dogooders don't want "others" (whoever they may be) to be offended.

The question is, do we as a country/society wish to regain and keep said "freedom of speech" or submit to the panderings of the PC brigade (whatever good they may have done in other areas)?

IMHO we should ALL have to right to say what we think (subject of course to the slander and libel laws) and if that offends anyone then that's their problem, they should learn to live with it. It goes both ways, other people would have the right to say/write what they think and that could offend me or others in our society.

Of course, that does not mean that we should have the right to offend anyone (individual or group) because of their race, colour or creed, etc but there are sections of our global society that do "take offence" at anything and everything that does not fit into their own narrow minded viewpoint

I think that, as a whole, the human race still has a hell of a lot of "growing up" to do.

Well, that's my two penny worth.


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:20 pm
by Officer Dibble
"The PC lobby is good"

"Good"? I beg to differ. Oh of course they think they're good, but that's almost entirely due to there own self satisfied, holier than thou, smugness and arrogance. In actual fact PC fuckers (who are all middle-class) are no better than anyone else in the general populace. Their so-called 'goodness' is no such thing. It's simply self-satisfied egotism and conceit. They love the warm cosy glow of smugness that comes with being able to consider themselves morally superior and lord it over their less enlightened (worthy?) fellow citizens. I guess it's very similar to the buzz a tasty motor and a huge bank balance gives you - but far less honest. PC fuckers? - T' FUCK WIV 'EM, I SAY!

Political correctness is one of the most dangerous and corrosive facets of politics today. It seeks to ameliorate the truth and modify our instinctive perception of the world around us. It?s taking us back to a dark age where the truth was handed down and imposed upon us by ?our betters?. It is the ?Newspeak? of Orwell?s dystopian nightmares. So therefore I say, T?FUCK WIV? IT!

Political correctness is no substitution for simple good manners, courtesy and decency. People should feel inhibited from calling someone a ?nig-nog?, for instance, because it is very rude, bad form, and simply not the right thing to do ? not because some conceited tossers who consider themselves your moral superiors have decreed you cannot utter the words. Instead of brain washing and political indoctrination I believe it would be far better to teach people the value of rationality, freethinking, respect (where it is due) and common decency.




Officer Dibble








Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by Sam Slater
It should have read 'Political correctness -done in the right way- is good'.

I agree on most of your points, but isn't it political correctness that has been hijacked by egotistic, holier than thou, self satisfied people that make it seem bad?


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:23 pm
by Jacques
Liberty, if it means anything at all, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear.


Re: Liberal Decision Time

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:27 pm
by Sam Slater
My old Orwellian sig.

Why did I change it?......ah yes, because you may know a man by the company he keeps. !wink!