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What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:32 pm
by Jacques
What is truth? Is there an objective Truth, or is it all perception?
Alternately, is truth what we decide and/or create?
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:47 pm
by laralatex
something that's not a lie !wink!
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:58 pm
by Sam Slater
I suppose it depends on the subject considered.
If I said 'pork is the most disgusting meat ever' it would be true to me personally, but an untruth to others. If God exists for you, then Gods presence is a truth inside your own mind, but an untruth in others minds. All those truths are subjective.
Now, if we ignore what reality is to us, then an objective truth is about something that can be tested and observed. If you look outside and see a blue car on your driveway, as long as you believe that your eyes are not deceiving you then the blue car is an objective truth to everyone that sees it. This truth is confirmed further if you touch the car, and further still if other people agree that they see a blue car on your driveway.
Scientifically, truths -or facts- cannot be 100% true. They just raise in probability the more tests reveal the same answer. It is a fact that throwing a coin up into the air makes it land head-up. It is a truth because it has been observed time and time again. However, it has also been observed just as much that it will fall tails-up so it is also 50% false. Nothing can be a truth and a falsehood at the same time -objectively- and so we use probability to determine truth.
Now, if you do a Descartes on reality, then that's a whole different kettle of fish!
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:02 pm
by leobloom
I drink therefore I am," i don't give a damn about the truth, exept the naked truth" Leonard Cohen.
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:09 pm
by Sam Slater
'Cogito ergo sum' - my old sig.
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:13 pm
by leobloom
Is that latin for my education is superior to yours Mister Bloom? Just kidding.
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:18 pm
by Jacques
What's "true" for me or you... has only to do with our individual access to data. There's a difference between knowledge and truth.
There has to be an objective truth. It is a 'necessary'. There is a universe, in and of itself, existing in its true form. Whether on not we can comprehend its true form and nature is irrelevant to its existence.
Re: What is truth?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:20 pm
by Sam Slater
Lol....I don't know any Latin. Only the odd phrase I come across in books.
When I say 'come across them' I don't mean I get sexual relief from such phrases.........just so you know !nuts!