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Subject that colonel and other supporters of our lower league sides might take interest in.

It's possible that Derby County could this season be relegated on 10 points.This would be a premiership record.But should'nt lessons be learned from this?

Had of West Brom beaten Derby in that play off final last season,don't you think they would of made a better effort in the premiership this season?.

Derby simply was'nt prepared for the premiership,no money,weak squad,they simply were consigned to relegation from the moment they beat West Brom,who were on paper the stronger team and also finished streets above Derby,in terms of points, in the table last season.

Derby will at the end of this season recieve a 'parachute payment' of ?30m.Why should they rewarded for faliure?.

Should'nt the promoted teams from the Championship recieve the parachute payment instead?,like that they would stand more of a chance surviving in the premiership,thus avoiding more situations than Derby are in right now.

Also the play off's need serious restructuring as the 3rd place team should go straight into the final,playing the 3rd bottom team in the premiership.That would surely make sense.

No?

I'd imagine the parachute payments were devised to help out bigger teams that might suffer a poor season. West Ham and Newcastle, for example, managed to accumulate enough points earlier in the season to ensure they'd survive, but they've pretty much been in freefall recently and could, in different circumstances, have been facing a season in the Championship.

Parachute payments are funded (or used to be) by not giving the promoted teams the full amount they should be entitled to in the first year to compensate the relegated teams. The whole concept is disgraceful - teams that have failed shouldn't be protected like that at the expense of progressive, upward-moving clubs. If we're serious about promotion in football they should be outlawed.

I agree, regarding the parachute payments. The promoted teams should get that money for going through a whole season doing well.

As for the play-offs: Derby beat West Brom and under the current system, deserved to go up. Although West Brom were way ahead on points, I think most teams still prefer the play-offs due to extra cash that generated.

I'm not in favour of a play-off between 3rd place in the Championship vs 3rd bottom from the Premiership. Due to the financial differences between bottom of the Prem and top end of the Championship, the play-off would be unfair in my opinion.

Either 3rd place goes straight up, or they use the play-off system.

Mike_CFC wrote:

> Derby simply was'nt prepared for the premiership,no money,weak
> squad,they simply were consigned to relegation from the moment
> they beat West Brom,who were on paper the stronger team and
> also finished streets above Derby,in terms of points, in the
> table last season.

Derby finished above West Brom in the final table in actual fact, with 8 points more than the baggies. Albion faded badly over the last ten games of the season and almost missed making the play offs. Going by today's result, history might be about to repeat itself ...

I love you too, Admin.....*sulks*

Forgive my ignorance but dont the winners of the championship playoffs
get a huge sweetener when they join the EPL?

For mine the handouts show all to clearly that players wages are ridiculously high and unsustainable

When a Championship club gets promoted,they budget themselves for the forthcoming season that they'll finish 4th bottom,or slightly higher,and get knocked out early in the cup competitions.Any other achivement or progress to them is a bonus.Some low level and mediocre Premiership clubs also operate this buisness practice.It's the only way they can survive.

We all know that in the Premiership,it's the TV money that pays the players wages.Any money made on season ticket,membership and merchandise sales goes to maintain the needs of the club.

In a way Derby are the winners,as they can pick up the ?30m parachute payment,and come staright back up next season,while the newly promoted play off club will struggle in the premiership.

Reason why i questioned whether the play off winners should get the parachute payment instead,which is alot more money than they initially get from Sky and Coca Cola.

Parachute payments are handed out to relegated clubs to help them come straight back up,these clubs are famously known as 'yo yo' clubs.

Chelsea,Newcastle United and Man City were prime examples of yo yo clubs in the 1980's.If it was'nt for them getting parachute payments,this would not of been possible.

I think you're refering to the premiership prize money at the end of the season,eg:the higher one club finishes in the table, the bigger the prize money.

How Coca Cola distribute their prize money i'm not exactly sure.I would'nt think it's that much as they have more clubs to feed,as opposed to the Premiership's 20 clubs.Caractacus wrote:

> I'd imagine the parachute payments were devised to help out
> bigger teams that might suffer a poor season. West Ham and
> Newcastle, for example, managed to accumulate enough points
> earlier in the season to ensure they'd survive, but they've
> pretty much been in freefall recently and could, in different
> circumstances, have been facing a season in the Championship.
>
>

Are you sure Admin?.I swear West Brom finished 3rd and Derby finished 5th.

Where's colonel when you need him? !confused!

Anyways,we've seen it before.A play off team finish below 3rd and get promoted.Prime examples have been Swindon(under Hoddle),Watford,Sunderland and now Derby.

Let's say this season's play off final is Stoke v Watford.Stoke get a jammy win,thus getting promoted.

How long can you see Stoke lasting if they get to the Premiership?
The Football League has to look at this and restructure the format of the play off's,or the game will become boring.