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Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:06 am
by colin
Been reported that he has been arrested for having images of child sex on a computer,that was one of several computers looked at when the search was on for Shannon.
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:37 pm
by Trumpton
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:47 pm
by Trumpton
Alice In Blunderland wrote:
> serious questions really
> have to be asked about the mothers attitude and judgement.
Insofar as she's got seven children from five different fathers.
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:15 pm
by dynatech
They're not called the 'underclass' for nothing.....
Unfortunately these half-wits are breeding like rabbits, without rhyme without reason
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:18 pm
by Guilbert
>They're not called the 'underclass' for nothing.....
>Unfortunately these half-wits are breeding like rabbits, without rhyme >without reason
Surely the poor always have.
In Victorian times familes had loads of kids, between 5 and 10 was the norm, so nothing new there.
And it could be argued if the poor had continued to have kids at that rate we would not get the massive uncontrolled immigration that the government seem to think we need.
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:19 pm
by Trumpton
Aren't they aware of the availability many different types of contraception ?
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:26 pm
by Guilbert
Read Charlie Chaplin's autobiography if you want to see how the underclass lived in Victorian times.
His father and mother married and had Charlie and his brother. His father was on the stage, but had a really bad drink problem.
He left her to live with another woman, who already had a kid by another man.
Charlie went to live with his father and partner when his mother went in the workhouse, and found that his father always came home drunk after appearing on stage each evening.
His father's partner stayed at home all day, but also managed to have a drink problem. Charlie was shocked by her son from a previous relationship because he kept cursing and swearing all the time.
There is nothing new about the underclass.
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:35 pm
by Trumpton
Guilbert wrote:
> how the underclass lived in Victorian times.
I thought that with the advent of the Welfare State that these types of conditions would be eradicated ?
Re: Shannon Matthews' Stepfather
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:46 pm
by Guilbert
>I thought that with the advent of the Welfare State that these types of conditions would be eradicated ?
It could be argued that giving these type of people more benefits the more children they have just encourages that sort of behaviour.
If you are an uneducated 16 year old girl with no skills and no future then it is a "good" career move to have a number of children by different fathers.
You will almost certainly get a council house, you get money for each child until they leave full time education, you will also probably get free school dinners, housing benefit, income support and so on.
In effect you are being paid to sit at home all day and breed, without any requirement to have a regular partner or even make a good job of bringing up your kids.