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FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:46 am
by Mike_CFC
No,it's not Sepp Blatter doing the simplest of sums !laugh!

What's people's views on this?.Would it improve football,and would it make our domestic League's more of a level playing field?.And how would it change our National teams. as fewer foreigners would be able to play in the same team.

However,the plan is already being challenged by the EU and Sports lawyers,stating that the plan could not be implemented in the UK and Europe as it suggests a 'restraint of trade'.

The FA back the plan,but the FAPL do not,neither do UEFA(FIFA's biggest Confederation).

For more info about Blatter's 6+5 rule,visit the FIFA or UEFA website.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:50 am
by Ace
What annoys me about this Mike, is Sepp Blatter was'nt whinging and moaning when Italy or Spain were mopping up the European honours a few years back, I am of the belief this nasty odious cunt hates England, and is out to do whatever he can to break our stronghold on European club success


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:10 am
by Mike_CFC
That does have alot to do with it Ace.The 6+5 rule would definetley affect Arsenal,as they only have a couple of 'homegrown players'.

Chelsea are already putting their plans into action as they are recruiting more homegrown players,sending them out on loan to lower league clubs to gain experience.A few examples are Scott Sinclair(Crystal Palace).Michael Mancciene(QPR),Michael Woods and Jimmy Smith(Norwich),Ryan Bertrand(Southend),and i understand we have a couple of loanee's at Leeds.

Ben Sahar,although born in Israel,would not be affected as he has been based in England for more than 5 years.

It's obvious that the English FA are backing the plan,as they want Blatter's vote for the World Cup in 2018.

UEFA oppose the plan as it would not do the Champions League any good,financially.

Real Madrid would also be affected as their youth policy is 'non-existent'.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:43 am
by diplodocus
it's a pointless exercise by blatter, the euro bods have already said it's against EU law, therefore not going to happen without massive changes to europe wide legislation, which aint gonna happen. Football thinks it's big business but in reality it isn't, couple of billion turnover for the premier league is pretty small fry in the big picture


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:58 am
by Mike_CFC
Good point.The FA would face a massive fight with the FAPL to introduce such a law as they are totally different bodies and the FA cannot dictate to the Premier League as they only oversee the National Team.

One continent that would not be affected is South America as the majority of Brazilian's,Argentinian's etc playing in their own league is huge,and the Copa Libertadores(South America's Champions League) is bigger than ever.

I can understand the aspect from the National Team angle.All National teams need development.There are many reasons as to why England,Scotland etc have'nt qualified for Euro 2008,but we do need more homegrown talent coming through and more scouts based in England,rather than Scandinavia,Eastern Europe,Africa and the USA.

Imo,6+5 does have it's advantages and disadvantages.But i can't help believing what Ace said that there is an anti-English feeling from Blatter as well.diplodocus wrote:

> it's a pointless exercise by blatter, the euro bods have
> already said it's against EU law, therefore not going to happen
> without massive changes to europe wide legislation, which aint
> gonna happen. Football thinks it's big business but in reality
> it isn't, couple of billion turnover for the premier league is
> pretty small fry in the big picture
>
>


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:11 am
by Ace
Mike_CFC wrote:

>
> I can understand the aspect from the National Team angle.All
> National teams need development.There are many reasons as to
> why England,Scotland etc have'nt qualified for Euro 2008,but we
> do need more homegrown talent coming through and more scouts
> based in England,rather than Scandinavia,Eastern Europe,Africa
> and the USA.


Scouts are out there for 1 reason, cheap signings from untapped talent. Even once great football countries like Romania, Hungary and Poland don't have the class acts they used to have. African players are decent, but now they command high fees.....and it wasn't until 15 years or so ago, you'd hardly see a decent African player in the top flight in England.
Scandanavian players used to be ridiculed 20 years ago, but again, decent players these days and commanding top fees.
China has been tapped, but the players, usually fancy dans cannot hack it when they go up several layers in class.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:44 am
by Mike_CFC
Tbh,i would like to see more English players/homegrown players playing in the top flight.Some youth academy's need to get their act together as well.I believe more lottery money should be put in to the youth development at lower league clubs.

Like i said,Man U,Liverpool and Chelsea would not be affected as we have the best youth academy's in Britain,nowhere near the youth academy's of Ajax,PSV Eindhoven and Barcelona though,where they start blooding youngsters as early as 8/9 years old,and they get them playing the systems of the senior teams.

At Chelsea,they have a youth exchange with Vitesse Arnhem of Holland,where our youngsters go there to learn and vice versa,which is also the way forward in youth development.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:53 am
by Sam Slater
I'm against it. We all know that if it came in to existence, Irish, Welsh and Scottish players would be exempt which is unfair on other nations.

This is just a tactic FIFA are using because the power is shifting towards the UK again. Last time English teams looked like they were going to dominate Europe they had the perfect excuse, in hooliganism, to ban us from the competition. Now it's happening again they're trying different tactics to keep the money, power and influence within Continental Europe.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:16 am
by Pervert
It would help, though, if there were a minimum quota of native players in a team. Arsenal's occasional decision to play Walcott from the start just highlights how few English players get a run-out there.

As has been pointed out by some commentators on the game, some young players are not getting their chance of first-team football, checking their career prospects. Loaning them to lower division sides is one way to keep them fit and improving their game, but it's no substitute for testing themselves against the best in the country.


Re: FIFA's 6+5

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:04 am
by Mike_CFC
Arsene Wenger said himself that English/British footballers of today are simply not good enough,and are overpriced !shocked!,thus why he trawls after unknown French and African players.

One person that is surely against this plan is Wenger.This plan would definetley scupper Arsenal.