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I thought that the earlier theft may have seen some keys being taken, and the perpetrator came back because he thought he may have been 'grassed up' or because he wanted to steal more. Then, whether through anger or drugs, he killed them in a frenzy. Hitmen do not stab someone 196 times and kick their head in after death.

One of them was not supposed to be there- he was only visiting. And plenty of drug dealers drive Beamers..

It may well be conspiracy. But always go with the cock-up first.

But then again....

Well, if our 'top spy' is known to the BBC, and now public at large, our secret services are fucked!

If I was a 'top spy' I'd act like a freaky Babecast fan, begging for names and addresses of 19 year old girls. No one would EVER know.... !wicked!

Stabbing someone 200 times takes some effort. That's malice and hate, or plain madness.

Even if you were capable mentally, physically, in a short space of time, it's still an effort. try punching your pillow 200 times with the same hand and you'll know what I mean.

Also, how do you bind 2 young men without a fight? There must be a few involved.

I have just been reading about now, truly horrific, as sam say's how do you tie two guys up and stab them on your own? there must have been more than one person, probably a gun involved, and probably drug related...very strange, even stranger when you think whoever did it is still walking around.

I can't see the planned theory having any weight. They were students involved with DNA - hardly anything that would involve MI5. There are plenty more scientists on the genome project, who'd know a lot more than these students.

I also think MI5 have better techniques in making someone talk, stabbing someone 200 times not one of them.

Fucking terrible, made me feel quite depressed to read it.