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I think this is a case of the "people in power" passing a verdict to allow the family to claim the life insurance, full police chief pension etc. If that wasn't suicide then I don't no what is !

I am sure any other person who died this way would have had a suicide verdict returned....

!thumbsdown!

He died from exposure, encouraged by alcohol and sleeping drugs.

Todd was a good copper, who was highly- sexed and may have had up to 8 women on the go at the same time. He couldn't cope and felt he had to pay the price.

I don't really think posters to a porn forum can criticise a bloke who had 8 women on the go- can you?

It was common knowledge that rural GPs would often put the suicides of hard-pressed farmers down to accidents rather than add to the families' woes, so they would still be able to get the insurance and pension money.

I agree with you Von Boy. I read this morning that the inquest was resuming and that his personal circumstances were 'off-limits' as far as the inquest was concerned. They weren't going to discuss them .. presumably they had already decided that they weren't a contributory factor when the layperson would reasonably suppose that they were. They have explained his 'i'm in a dark place' texts as being due to the effects of alcohol, medication and stress and put the death down to exposure.

Yes, it's probably partly to do with pension and insurance issues but also about protecting Todd's reputation and the reputation of the Police service for if it emerged that he was running a very complicated private whilst at the same time holding the highest office in the Gtr Manchester service people might have raised questions such as 'What were Todd's priorities?' and 'Was the taxpayer getting good value for money in terms of Todd's salary and add-ons given that some/much of his energies were apparently directed elsewhere?' This inquest verdict doesn't invite those questions.

Another point is that the legal system isn't a two tier service which is applied differently according to an individual's status. The kind of practice exemplified by the Todd inquest leads one to believe that it is.

First, this seems like a pretty generous verdict by the Coroner. Given the texts Todd sent, and the way he went up a mountain at night loaded up on drugs and booze, most of us would have little difficulty calling it suicide.

Second, these days I don't think suicide affects payouts on pensions and insurance. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that was only a factor back in the days when suicide was illegal, as you could not have people benefitting from an illegal act.

Entirely correct verdict.Unless there is clear evidence he killed himself then coroners will always give the benefit of the doubt.I think he intended to kill himself but the benefit is fair to all although the insurance company would be pissed off becase they will not pay out for suicide.

He got pissed, went for a ramble to sort his napper out, and the extreme weather caught him out, I don't think it was suicide myself, he had just got busted shagging around and his head was in bits..

They say in convict circles 'Don't do the crime if you can't do the time'. Same applies to Todd doesn't it .. don't shag around if you can't handle the consequences. His 'napper' was probably done-in not out of feelings of guilt for the betrayal of his wife but because he felt sorry for himself because he wasn't in control of the situation.

A "good copper" ??? lining his own pockets for doing sod-all other than brown-nosing his way up the ladder same as the tosser down south , about time they made him jack his job in , Boris wants a pat on the back for that , and i'm red voter .
They whine on about coppers not getting any respect anymore , simple fact most of them don't deserve any , they think it's a right for wearing the uniform , they may have a hard job to do , but if they don't like it they can always go and work in a factory .
I'm an honest genuine law-abiding citizen mid-late 30's never do anything wrong , sorry other than half a dozen speeding tickets , and on the odd time i've rung them up or had any dealings with them they treat you with nothing but contempt , they have worse/lower morals than me , they don't get nothing from JJ no more , fuck 'em . JJ .

I think you're right, they've just engineered the verdict the family and employers would like. Happens all the time in any large organisation, everyone knows what went on, but say something completely different to protect reputations.

It's like going into hospital for a minor op then succumbing to MRSA - eventually you die of pneumonia and that's what they like on the death certificate. Technically it may be the truth, but it was caused by their negligence. He died of exposure, but it didn't happen as a result of an accident.

Sometimes it's just easier to lie and skirt round the real issues - and in some cases it's for the best.