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Foreign ISPs

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:46 pm
by andy at handiwork
If the state goes ahead with plans to spy on our every web click, is it possble to have a foreign based ISP that would not be forced to hand over records of ones internet visits? If not, can someone produce a programme that will automatically access, momentarily, every result of a random google search that I can leave running overnight so that we can drown the snoopers with data? That could be thousands of web sites of millions of users.

Re: Foreign ISPs

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:45 am
by JonnyHungwell
It's not possible to have a foreign ISP, although there are plenty of products that use proxies, that purport to protect your identity - but it depends on how much you trust the providers, because ultimately they know where you've been - even though some are based abroad and claim not to keep logs.

You can do it yourself within internet explorer if you can find a reliable proxy - there are loads about and sites that publish them daily, but they're only there because companies have mis-configured their servers and people piggy back on them. They can be slow and unreliable and most don't work - so you can waste a lot of time finding a good one.

Technically it's not legal to use them, but in reality prosecution would be near impossible because it involves cross border legal matters and a lot of the servers are in countries not friendly to the UK, so they would not co-operate anyway. But beware of using US military or government servers, because they will come after you :)

Plus most companies would never like to make public the fact that their servers were left open, so they just close the ports down and forget about it - it could cause them a real embarrassment if it hit the news.

Re: Foreign ISPs

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:59 am
by andy at handiwork
Thanks for the info. Basically for a relative computer illiterate like me there's no legal/feasable alternative to letting the mad curtain-twitcher woman of Whitehall see my records.

Is the drown them in data idea a runner?

Re: Foreign ISPs

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:04 am
by Floydoid
If you fancy a change of broadband supplier here's plenty of info about ISP's over at Kitz's site:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/isp/index.htm

We've had several debates about this topic and related issues on the forums over there:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/isp/index.htm (look in the News Articles & Tech Chat sections)

Please note that I've deliberately not hotlinked , as the webmistress over there wouldn't appreciate being linked to an 'adult' site.


Re: Foreign ISPs

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:26 pm
by andy at handiwork
Thank you for the info, though my initial point was for a foreign ISP that wouldn't be legally forced to keep and divulge my web visits. It would appear to be difficult and probably illegal. And actually I do have things to hide, though only to prevent the police making a circumstantial case against me should they wish. I suspect that would apply to an awful lot of people.

I'll have a look at the site you suggest for general info though.