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BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:37 pm
by max_tranmere
The front page of the London Evening Standard today informs us that a Policeman, stationed in south London, who is apparently a member of the BNP, is now back working again. It came to light that this man was in the BNP when their membership list was leaked last year. I have no time for the BNP and I am not happy about the fact that they are seemingly on the rise. However, I believe that if a Party can legally exist, stand candidates, canvas for votes, legally raise funds, pay tax on their party income, their senior figures are paid salaries for what they do and they pay tax on the earnings, people can legally vote for the party, and so on, then they are a legitimate party - regardless of whether their agenda is something questionable.

The fact they are legally able to do all of what I've just listed, means they have the endorsement of the establishment to a major extent. So being a member of the Party would be ok too, wouldn't it? I don't agree with their agenda, if however they can legally exist then how is this guy a fiend for belonging to the Party? Also, and this is the most troubling for me, it got the whole front page of the Standard - pushing stories about murder, and many other very heavy things, to page 2 and later. If the press, who are unelected, largely unacountable, but hugely influential, can announce to everyone the name of this Policeman, the area where he is stationed, and to make a huge deal of the whole thing, which will push his bosses to either suspend him again, or sack him, all because of his personal politics, it sounds to me that the media have become something Orwellian.

To "out" people for their beliefs, push their superiors to take action against them, it seems we have already become a facsist state! What are other people's views on this?

Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:20 pm
by andy at handiwork
I suppose the attitude is taken that as a supporter of a political party having the views it does, a serving police officer with those beliefs might not exercise his duty with the correct impartiality when dealing with members of the public who belong to groups or whose ethnicity or sexuality doesn't come up to their exacting criteria.

Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:24 pm
by number 6
How can racist who is supposed to be protecting the public be as fair to ethnic minorities as he is to whites??His prejudices will get in the way. ,Mind you there are thousands of racist police.

Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the bea

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:33 pm
by davey
excellant news.no-ones career should be affected because of someones political beliefs


Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:39 pm
by colonel
Lets make this simple:

Any member or proven supporter of:

The BNP or similar Nazi scum
Respect or similar Trot scum
The Freemasons

should be barred from making money from the public purse directly or indirectly for life.

Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:24 pm
by one eyed jack
Max, it all comes down to living in a democratic society.

There is a fine line between those who hate racists and racists who hate non racists...Its a hot issue and one both sides have fought with fatal results on both sides.

You may not see it but hating raicsts also breeds reverse racism which can be just as bad.

I'd be more interested in knowing why a racist hates the way they do. Im sure in most cases its based on ignorance on their own part and some just hate everybody because they are miserable gits.

Misery loves company thats why they all band together

Better to know someone is a racist than not I think. Not much can be done to stop the rot setting in if a person is that way inclined.

I dont hate racists. I feel sorry for them because every time they switch on the tv, or watch a movie or walk down the street they are miserable because they see the objects of what they fear and hate and that must make them feel unhappy every day of their lives.

People should remember what hatred did to Nazi germany. it imploded on itself. People who hate rarely feel love towards anything and I doubt they really even like themselves and that is very sad.
hatred is all consuming and those who wreak havoc on those they hate always get theirs in the end.

In the case of this officer, while he might be able to obstruct justice for those he hates it can easily work against him that way too.

Its called karma. Do I believe in karma...I guess so.

You reap what you sow


Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:23 am
by Dave Wells
He'll be back amongst his own kind then won't he !


Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:22 am
by one eyed jack
I think things like this dont help:



..But then you have to ask why Britain would commission foreign skills over those available in the UK?

Or maybe that budget contstraints or just sheer skill alone had something to do with it. Who knows?

Racism isnt always a black and white issue.

I see a lot of white people who dont like whites, blacks who dont like blacks and asians who dislike asians...Its all about hate.


Re: BIG news story: "BNP Policeman back on the beat"..

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:45 am
by randyandy
colonel wrote:

> Lets make this simple:
>
> Any member or proven supporter of:
>
> The BNP or similar Nazi scum
> Respect or similar Trot scum
> The Freemasons
>
> should be barred from making money from the public purse
> directly or indirectly for life.


Lets also make this simple:

The BNP, who I detest with a passion and the so-called Respect party, who I personally feel are more dangerous than the BNP, are allowed to exist in our democracy.

As a Labour supporter I know lots of people hate my politics and that is something they are allowed to do.

Hypothetical question IF the BNP had a mainstream newspaper and 'normal' party activists / supporters were listed in it, were we lived, what we did for work, etc would we be happy with the intrusion?

Should racist Police be on the force NO for obvious reasons but it should be up to the Police to deal with it in the same way it is with any other employer.

Max asks a good question when he asks why was this front page when murders etc ended up on page two. The unfortunate answer is simple. A story about with the BNP in title will sadly sell more than another kid murdered in the city.

All that does is give the BNP the attention they want when in reality they should just be kicked back under the rock from which they have crawled.