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Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:11 am
by modfather

Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:19 am
by one eyed jack
No it doesnt.

It infuriates me when I book a cab (on the odd occasion that I do) and the controller doesnt speak even half way decent english and I have to spell out my road all of a bout 5 or 6 times.

It is infuriating

More so Ive noticed this forum seems to be becoming more and more racially focussed on subjects. Whats up with that?

If I could hazard a guess, most of the regular posters on this topic are white.

Just thinking there might be more effective forums than the OT BGAFD for that sort of thing is all.


Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:23 am
by Peter
No, he's not white, so its impossible for him to be racist.

There was a story about a councillor a couple of weeks ago, a black woman who called another black woman a 'coconut' in council session. When questioned about it she said "How can I be racist, I'm black?"

I also saw a story in my local paper late last year about a jeweller who was being branded as racist because he refused to let women wearing the niqab into his shop. His reasoning was he didn't let anyone in wearing a crash helmet, baseball cap and sunglasses, or any form of disguise, so why should they be exempt?

As the say in 'merica without being jumped on, "Learn the language or get out of the country"

Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:48 am
by max_tranmere
Racism is defined as "treating someone negatively, or excluding them, solely on the grounds of their race, colour, creed, or religion". That is the full extent of the definition. The mischief-making television media, who are more or less Britain's shadow government, have tried to stretch the definition to mean anything and everything but it only technically means what I've just outlined.

For many years there was the colour-bar in Britain, it was effectively legal to be racist - or 'racialist' as it was then called. From when mass immigration started in the late-1950's, right up until the 1968 Race Relations Act - people were legally ok to put a notice in the window of their boarding house (and many did) saying "Rooms to let - no blacks", or in a job advert "Secretary wanted: no blacks or asians need apply". Some pubs in the Midlands used to put a sign on their door saying "No Asians". This, bizarelly, wasn't against the law.

They outawed this sort of thing in 1968, and rightly so. Basically if you contravene that Act of Parliament, or fall foul of the definition of 'racism' that I've outlined above, then you are a racist. The definition doesn't extend any wider than that - in spite of what TV news editors and the PC lobby have tried to do with the term.

Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:35 am
by Heidi Vincent
We've always held the opinion that if you don't speak English when you arrive and have made no reasonable improvements within 6 months,then its bye bye.
Just what contribution can you make to a countries society if you don't speak the language,how are you supposed to integrate?
Without wanting to sound racist,Hell its like treadin on eggs ffs,some of the worst offenders are Asian women whose husbands don't want them to integrate/mix with us.
However,suppose you had an emergency and needed help urgently and they were the only people around,get my drift?
I believe there is some sort of language test for non English speakers entering Australia but then again they've never been frightened of calling a spade a spade !oops! sorry! Seriously,no racism intended.

Heidi V.
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Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:45 am
by spider
With Sub Post Offices closing every day I would have thought that this bloke would be grateful for any business he could get.

I also have a problem with the fact that as he is an employee of the Post Office, it's not up to him to decide who he serves and who he doesn't.

It?s a Public Service it?s not for some jumped-up jobs-worth to say who can use that service.


Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:00 pm
by one eyed jack
The correct term then would be he is prejudiced. That is definitely him then. While I can understand his point i can also understand that if you refuse to do business with someone then your employer reserves the right to sack you.

So how and why did this become news?


Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:16 pm
by Peter
spider wrote:
> I also have a problem with the fact that as he is an employee
> of the Post Office, it's not up to him to decide who he serves
> and who he doesn't.
>
> It?s a Public Service it?s not for some jumped-up jobs-worth to
> say who can use that service.
>
>

He can, apparently. I've checked with the Post Office, as mine is contained within my local small supermarket, with whom I have weekly rows and stand-offs, over their continued blocking of my access. I checked to see that if/when they eventually bar me from the store, could they prevent me from using the post office counter, and yes, they have no obligation to serve anyone.

Re: Does this make him a racist?

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:19 pm
by Heidi Vincent

This reminds me of a similar thing that had our town up in arms last year.
In our Tesco is a Pharmacy,a local woman went in for The Morning After Pill. The Pharmacist, who was Asian, refused to give her it as it didn't sit well with his religeous belief's.
Of course all Hell broke loose in the local paper. His job, after all, was/is to prescribe medicines to whoever and whenever required. If his religeon interfered with that, then he should never have become a Pharmacist. Did he get dismissed, did he buggery.
Try not doing part of your job on religeous grounds,see how long you stay employed. !annoyed!

Heidi V.
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