Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:15 pm
Yes, if they do exactly the same job.
You have to ask?
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Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:56 pm
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:29 pm
As long as they accept the bad bits of equality, fine with me.
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:01 pm
Yes but will they also be happy to accept that the retirement age will have to be equal to the mens?? Only way it can work I am afraid if they want total equality not selective ...
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:27 pm
I once worked with a woman who couldn't work overtime after 12 noon on Sundays ---- because she needed to go home to put the Yorkshire Puddings on 
You just had to laugh.
You just had to laugh.Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:16 am
crofter wrote:
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I think that the UK retirement ages may now indeed be equal (not sure - would have to check) but I take your point, crofter.
Seems to me that much is always made of discrimination against women (be it real or perceived). It's invariably seen as a major societal injustice that needs to be swept aside at any cost. Whereas discrimination against men on the other hand (and it exists in abundance in many areas) never seems to be regarded as much of a priority or a problem.
I've met so many women over the years in both a private and personal capacity who've banged on majorly about "equality" etc. yet who've always expected men to defer to them, help them take their coats off, vacate seats for them, pick up the tab etc. etc. Even walk on the outside of the pavement!
Of course not all women are like that, but many still are: They want "equality" when it suits them and works to their advantage. But they also want / expect all the old-fashioned male chivalry as well. And of course where there's already discrimnation **in favour of** women (family law, so-called 'potivive discrimination quotas' etc.). that's always 'justifiable', 'understandable' or at the very least 'explainable'.
A lot of this 'unequal pay' thing is a myth anyway (and of course when women happen to earn more than men, that's okay!). Where it exists at all it's due not to deliberate discrimination but to women taking extended maternity breaks etc. which is bound to have a disruptive effect on their careers.
Despite the best efforts of the feminist lobby to preted that there's no difference between men and women, you can't effectively legislate against biology. You certainly can't ignore it.
- Eric
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I think that the UK retirement ages may now indeed be equal (not sure - would have to check) but I take your point, crofter.
Seems to me that much is always made of discrimination against women (be it real or perceived). It's invariably seen as a major societal injustice that needs to be swept aside at any cost. Whereas discrimination against men on the other hand (and it exists in abundance in many areas) never seems to be regarded as much of a priority or a problem.
I've met so many women over the years in both a private and personal capacity who've banged on majorly about "equality" etc. yet who've always expected men to defer to them, help them take their coats off, vacate seats for them, pick up the tab etc. etc. Even walk on the outside of the pavement!
Of course not all women are like that, but many still are: They want "equality" when it suits them and works to their advantage. But they also want / expect all the old-fashioned male chivalry as well. And of course where there's already discrimnation **in favour of** women (family law, so-called 'potivive discrimination quotas' etc.). that's always 'justifiable', 'understandable' or at the very least 'explainable'.
A lot of this 'unequal pay' thing is a myth anyway (and of course when women happen to earn more than men, that's okay!). Where it exists at all it's due not to deliberate discrimination but to women taking extended maternity breaks etc. which is bound to have a disruptive effect on their careers.
Despite the best efforts of the feminist lobby to preted that there's no difference between men and women, you can't effectively legislate against biology. You certainly can't ignore it.
- Eric
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:27 am
This business (porn) is the perfect example of the opposite !
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:32 am
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I meant of course "private and professional" (work).
- Eric
I meant of course "private and professional" (work).
- Eric
Re: equal pay for women?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:08 am
Interesting link on the pay gap "discrimination" myth. It's American, but the same principles apply:
- Eric
- Eric