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So Newcastle have been relegated to the Championship.
I think this could be a blessing in disguise for them providing they come straight back up again.

Hopefully it will give them a chance of ridding the club of their so called superstars, who have totally under performed since they have been there on their ?50K+ weekly wages.

Also if they can come straight back up it will get the chance of building a team with a winning mentality.
If this is the case i expect their gates will be high as ever with the fans seeing a winning team.

Looks like it's going to be a great Championship next season.

nikonman wrote:

> I think this could be a blessing in disguise for them providing they come straight back up again.

A quick return by running away with the championship could be just the tonic they need. If they don't do it at the first time of asking they could struggle to get back ( think Leeds Unite).

I'm just hoping that Norwich City manage the the quick return too.

I hope Norwich can bounce back from Div. 1 next season as well.

It did Leicester no harm this season in Div 1, and their gates were higher as well with the fans seeing a winning team most weeks.

I am looking for Forest to be pressing for the play-offs next season at the least.

Will be interesting to see how many of the ?50K+ per week players jump ship as they'll be worried about their money not the team.

Part of the problem with football these days is that the players and their agents are most concerned about their income and the models they are screwing instead of their performance on the pitch.

Shame the pay isn't performance related like most of us here.

Unfortunately i understand that Newcastle have no clause in the players contracts that they are going to be on lower money if they went down.
That's unless the tv have got it wrong.

Playing Barcelona one year, playing Blackpool the next. How the mighty have fallen. I spent some time in Newcastle not so long ago and was very impressed with the football stadium there. I was amazed that it is right in the centre of the city - the only city I can think of in Britain that has a stadium right in the middle.

Harry Hardon wrote:

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It IS in fact performace-related, at least partly.

On top of their "basic" wage, players also get win bonuses, bonuses for scoring goals, bonuses for reaching various stages of Cup competitions etc. etc.

The problem is that the "basic" wage is already XX,000 per week (or even XXX,000 per week). The player gets that amount anyway, before he's even kicked a ball on a Saturday afternoon.

He even sometimes gets paid that amount NOT to play football (if he's injured, suspended or out for some other reason).

And of course he still gets paid that money even for turning in a crap performance when he's on the pitch.

And that's the problem. Because when you're on 100+ k (or even 50+ k) a week basic, that takes away much of the financial incentive, because that's still a tidy wedge in anyone's books.

Of course the competitive motivation may (or may not) still be there. But let's face it, money is a major factor for everyone, it's human nature. So why bother busting a gut when you can just go though the motions? After all - you're still getting paid.

I think the solution would be to pay them all a low basic wage - or at least low by footballers' standards (say 5 k per week) and make the rest performance-related. That'd make some of the overpaid, pampered Premiership primadonnas pull their fingers out for sure - but of course it'd only work if ALL clubs did it, which means it's probably a non-starter.

- Eric

cockney wrote:

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I think they will probably come straight back up. But was so pleased to see them go down for what will hopefully - this time - be a reality check.

Geordies are fond of claiming that they're a "big club" - which is bollocks: No league titles since the 1920s, just 2 minor trophies in the past 40 years (the Anglo-Italian Cup and the Intertoto Cup) and periodical yo-yoing between the first and second tiers of the English league set-up do NOT a "big club" make.

There's more to being a "big club" than just a loyal fanbase and a half-decent stadium. A "club with potential" is probably the kindest way of describing them. Many would no doubt say that they're just shite.

- Eric

"Of course the competitive motivation may (or may not) still be there. But let's face it, money is a major factor for everyone, it's human nature. So why bother busting a gut when you can just go though the motions? After all - you're still getting paid."


Actually what you say is completely wrong.

Those people who tally up all the stats, such as distance covered in a game, have proven that the best paid players tend to be the hardest working. Think Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, often the top 3 when these stats are thrown around.

It's always struck me as significant that the best (and therefore best paid) players also tend to be the most hard working, whereas you imply that the opposite is true.

Perhaps their ability allied with their workrate is why they came to be so highly paid in the first place?