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Wilson spied on by MI5
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:03 am
by Jonone
Where's the trust ?
Re: Wilson spied on by MI5
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:25 am
by Peter
When they refurbished my local town hall, they found a bug, consistent with the type used by the security services in the 70's.
Re: Wilson spied on by MI5
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:40 am
by max_tranmere
This has been known for years. His official address was, obviously, 10 Downing Street but he actually discreetly lived in Lord North Street in Westminster, just down the road. He went back there to sleep every night and held the odd meeting in or behind the house, but most of his work was done in Downing Street. There was always a policeman outside the house in Lord North Street and the phones, and probably all the rooms in the house were bugged. Whenever he was going to have a meeting about something quite sensitive he would have it in the garden and would often hold his hand over his mouth in case anyone was watching from afar.
There was very nearly a coup in 1976 to oust him and Lord Mountbatten was going to stage it. This coup would have been like the ones you get in Africa. There would have been soldiers in Downing Street, they would have taken possession of the buildings and of the workings of Government, and Wilson would have been taken from his office in handcuffs. A show of mite involving the military at Heathrow Airport that year was said to have been put on to show how the military could cope in a terrorist incident, it involved many tanks and soliders being deployed to the airport, but it was later claimed that it was actually the Establishment showing to Wilson and his cronies that they meant business and could move tanks and soldiers into position to carry out any mission they chose to. It was done to scare Wilson.
Also that year, about 20 burglaries occured across London where senior figures who worked at Downing Street had their houses and flats broken into. In every case there were items which a normal burglar would have stolen and in every case nothing was taken. It is strongly thought that it was MI5 breaking in to the properties to plant bugs. The Establishment regarded the Labour Party as destructive mavericks who shouldnt be allowed to have the power they did and shouldn't be allowed to make the huge changes they were making. The coup never happened but I imagine Wilson would have been very afraid (Lord Mountbatten was killed by the IRA three years later).
Re: Wilson spied on by MI5
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:57 am
by max_tranmere
What exactly did Mountbatten do that was so bad? Also, dont forget, when the IRA killed him 2 children died and so did an old lady. Those three were total innocents. I remember seeing an ex-IRA man, who turned supergrass, being interviewed on TV. His name is Sean O'Callaghan and he is still in hiding. He was very critical of the IRA over Mountbatten, he said killing an old man, an old lady, and two children who were holidaying on a boat off the Irish coast was 'an easy target'. He implied it was a very cynical, nasty thing to do. He had not long left the IRA himself when it occured.
Re: Wilson spied on by MI5
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:11 am
by max_tranmere
Mountbatten was the Viceroy of India and is generally blamed for its partition and the huge problems that followed - namely over one million deaths and the biggest uprooting and movement of people in the history of the world. However, it was actually a man called Cyril Radcliffe who partioned India and decided where the border would be. Other than being Viceroy there I'm not sure what else Mountbatten was known for, except for being a senior Royal and for being the man who almost staged a coup in Brtain in the 1970's.