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Are you implying certain individuals never sung football songs in their kids' ears during the 70s, 80s and 90s, nor spat on the pavement?

I used to drive to Salford Uni everyday for 3 years whilst my wife worked there and we came to the conclusion that it is now populated because all the dreggs of society had congregated there and bred ! And what they bred was twice as worse as they were and so on and so on !

Can you blame them for how society created them? Recent news states that the gap between rich and poor is at its largest ever, where is the appeal of working 9-5 just to get taxed to death and look forward to one holiday a year and losing your pension etc. as reward!

They are obviously terrible examples of the human race but they are only products of society in my opinion.

Sounds like man fatha from Biffa Bacon in the Viz comics and that were 20 year agoo mon!

'where is the appeal of working 9-5 just to get taxed to death and look forward to one holiday a year and losing your pension etc. as reward!'

erm forgive my ignorance but since when do chavs work anyway?

and PH, i trust you will be throwing yourself off a cliff relatively soon as punishment for buying the daily mail~!

You can pinpoint the birth of chavs to the Thatcher years. Fact.

In order for there to be 'haves' there has to be 'have nots'. The 'haves' appear to be virtuous, the 'have nots' less so.

This definitely pre-dates Thatcherism.