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what an absolute betrayl of the working class by those labour cunts.there are 3 million officially unemployed i am guessing several hundred thousand must be builders.i dare say there are tens of thousands of builders in london alone who are out of work so they could sack every foreigner tomorrow and have every job filled the day after.thats an extra 5 thousand British families who would get through this recession.this is the worst recession in living memory and that olympics is a taxpayer funded job so why is taxpayers money going to foreigners when we have so many of our own out of work?no doubt some liberal cunt is going to say they bring skills to the industry and think of the economic benefits but that is all bollocks the fact is they are cheap.i have got a friend working on there doing temporary electrics and he told me all the Poles get paid through offshore companies whereby you pay a ?25 arrangement fee and you keep everything else you dont pay any tax or N.I. they are working for pay rates up to 40% less then they should be so if you are british and you do manage to get a job there you have to be prepared to work for shit money or you dont get the job.the building industry has been decimated by this eastern european immigration.what chance does a young British lad have who is thinking of geting an apprenticeship?how is he going to get ?20 ,000 for a deposit on a house when he has to compete with the rest of the world coming here to work for fuck all?And the amount of cunts you hear on the telly talking about how great it is to get a cheap polish plumber.if it affected he middle class it would be stopped overnight.anyone who is working class and thinking of voting labour must be a total cunt.How many more lives could they destroy and how many foreigners could they import given another 5 years in office?it might not be affecting you right now but it will definetly affect your children and grandchildren

But if you put the Cuntservitives in they being business biased would come up with policies to bring more cheap imigrants so their business cronies could make more money out of it.

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yeah and the liberals want an open door policy so what chance has the British worker got?labour want cheap immigrants for the votes,conservatives want them as you say to make more profit for their business friends and the liberals just live in la la land

You said;
"what an absolute betrayl of the working class by those labour cunts."

Labour has hated the "Working class" ever since the 1979 and subsequent elections, where they placed Margeret Thatcher in power.

Today, the definition of "Working class" is someone who either wishes to, or is, in paid, taxable,"Work" who is not eligable for bonuses or gold plated pensions and is a permanent resident of the UK.

Labour hates this whole class, it sees it as a cash cow to be milked for every penny it can squeeze out of them. This money has to be reditributed to the Banks, benefits scroungers , bankers, profiteering power companies and so on.

Proof of this is the example of the nationalised banks. Who would believe that after a "Labour government" had saved these scumbags, that they would stand by "helplessly" while the chief executives paid themselves huge bonuses, with our money. Or standby, "Helplessly" while the power companies profiteered from millions of consumers, by not passing on the drop in the wholesale price of gas.

Even now New Labour stands by while thousands of its own people are stranded abroad. You see, as far as New Labour is concerned these are people made up of the "Cash cow" class and therefore have no importance or value.

New Labour have alienated a whole swathe of their original core support. So now only, if you are very rich, vote Labour and if you are a benefits scrounger vote Labour. If you are a drunken, violent criminal that needs to utilise the resources of all our social welfare services, vote Labour.

Anyone else take note: If they get back in you are going to be pissed on from a great height for the next 4 years! Forget your Socialist principles, they have been flushed down the toilet long ago. Your only choice is to vote Lib Dems.

British jobs for British workers?

When you have a feckless underclass allied to businesses whose search for ever greater profits results in keeping wages as low as possible, and consumers who want to pay as little as possible for goods and services, there will always be opportunities for migrant workers to fill the void of jobs that need doing cheaply!

Davey, you say Labour are cunts and the Lib Dems live in cloud cuckoo land. Sorry mate, you're the cunt living in cloud cuckoo land if you think you'll ever get a British worker (and I use the term 'worker" as loosely as possible) to get up at 5.00am to pick lettuces for ?5.80 an hour (or less), all because we, the consumer, demand cheap food from Tescos, Asda etc. You're the cunt living in cloud cuckoo land if you think getting rid of all migrant workers will immediately see people like James Dyson (a special economic adviser on industry and job creation to David Cameron) close his Malaysian factory and re-open the factory he closed in the UK to take advantage of cheaper labour elsewhere.

And if you think parties like UKIP and the BNP are the answer, you really ARE a cunt living in cloud cuckoo land!

Jim,
Quite a bit of what you say in other posts I agree with. But this seems to be a real rant. You haven't just had a tax demand, have you?

"Labour has hated the "Working class" ever since the 1979 and subsequent elections, where they placed Margeret Thatcher in power.

I have pointed out what Labour has done for the less well-off including tax payers since 1979 (see link below) e.g. the minimimum wage. No way is this a Thatcherite agenda! No-one on this forum has ever taken up my challenge and listed the things that Thatcher did to help the less well off.

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i ... ply_221516


"Today, the definition of "Working class" is someone who either wishes to, or is, in paid, taxable,"Work" who is not eligable for bonuses or gold plated pensions and is a permanent resident of the UK. Labour hates this whole class, it sees it as a cash cow to be milked for every penny it can squeeze out of them. "

The idea that Labour hates anyone who is not rich and is a permanent resident strikes me as daft. Given that Labour has won the last three elections, hardly an election winning strategy is it?

"This money has to be reditributed to the Banks, benefits scroungers , bankers, profiteering power companies and so on"

I agree that Labour should have taken a lot stronger action on the banking sector. With regard to benefit scroungers, this is the old Daily Mail type story where the unemployed are driving round in Rolls Royces. Having lived in a number of Western European countries such as Denmark, Sweden, Belgium and Holland, as far as I could see both tax and benefit levels were higher than in the UK. With regard to profiteering power companies, it was Thatcher that sold the family silver. I agree that the regulation of these industries should be much stronger.

"Even now New Labour stands by while thousands of its own people are stranded abroad. You see, as far as New Labour is concerned these are people made up of the "Cash cow" class and therefore have no importance or value."

The government were in the same position as other countries i.e. they took the advice of the regulatory bodies with regard to closing air space. There was a lack of clarity as to how long this would last, where the ash cloud would spread to etc etc. Having said that there are coaches that picked up people from Madrid last night and today. There are loads of extra ferry services being laid on. And a new standard has been worked out with the regulatory bodies to reopen British airspace for inward and outward flights. This does not equate to doing nothing as far as I can see.

"So now only, if you are very rich, vote Labour "

Perhaps you could explain Jim, why the richest constituencies in this country have hardly, if ever, voted for the Labour party and instead have voted Tory?

"Your only choice is to vote Lib Dems"
Ah yes, is this the same Nick Clegg who is in favour of joining the euro?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7841897.stm

Vote Lib Dem if you want to vote for the party most in favour of the EU. Vote Lib Dem if you want to see this country's economy restricted by Euroland central banks.
And for those forumites who are concerned about levels of immigration, the following link is of interest.
http://islington-libdems.org.uk/news/00 ... urope.html
If Turkey joins the EU there could be quite a few coming to Britain looking for work etc. I would in their situation.

Cheers
D

I'm afraid I totally agree with you. The average British "Worker" would consider getting out of bed and giving up the 'ol "Bennys" for these jobs, "Not worth their while."

To be honest, I'm surprised that you actually care. I'm surprised that you believe that any of these politicians have a "Belief" other than stashing cash and opportunities away for themselves, like warmonger money-grabber Blair. Ultra right wing loony Bush's strongest ally. Where's the logic in that then?

Loveable, caring, Labour Socialist !love! Neo Con warmonger, what a combo!That's the caring, Socialist reality. I'd rather have Tory toffs than this lot of hypocrites anyday.

jimslip wrote:

> To be honest, I'm surprised that you actually care.

The reason I care is firstly I remember how fucked we all were the last time the Tories were in.

I also unfortunately live within the remit of a Tory council which has seen crime rise, the so-called Community meetings less attended by Tory councillors and help cut for the most vulnerable.

As someone who does voluntary work I also know that Green Dave's BIG Society is bollocks of the worst kind and that not only will it fail it will also bring massive problems to the network if 'forced voluntary' steps are taken.

That said I'd be more interested to know why you actually care about getting 'Tory Toffs' as you call them in what is their policy for example on the adult industry?