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Ed has just informed us that it was wrong to go to war. Interesting. Shame that wasnt the majority view in the Labour Party when the decision was being made.

And it's only wrong now because its become fashionable to say so. Were it still right I daresay everyone would be clamouring there input

I was interested to read the other day that Labour has had 18 leaders. 4 won a General Election. The Union puppet Milliband junior won't be the 5th, and that's for sure.

As an ex-public sector worker like yourself, on one of those totally unaffordable, gold-plated pensions that Cameron and the Cleggster are always on about, I would have thought you would have been in favour of Milliband.

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max_tranmere wrote:

> Ed has just informed us that it was wrong to go to war.
> Interesting. Shame that wasnt the majority view in the Labour
> Party when the decision was being made.


The fact is Max, that whilst many people in the country were against the war, both the then leaders of the Labour and Conservative parties (along with their respective cabinets) were in favour of supporting the US led invasion of Iraq, even without full UN support. Things wouldn't have been any different under the Tories. David Cameron hasn't exactly been vociferous against the invasion of Iraq either!

His brother David is being shown on all the teatime news programmes being rather annoyed at Harriet Harman clapping what Ed Miliband says. "You voted for it so why are you clapping" is what David says to Harriet. So even the Mili's have differnt views on the war, David looks back thinking it was right and Ed not.

In my opinion most Labour and Tory MP's who voted for it were probably privately against it, but 'going against the grain' and taking the opposite view to what their party leader and many colleagues believed in would have harmed their careers - and that is the thing politicians care about the most.

Any one who thinks a Service Pension for the non commissioned ranks is gold plated must be as stupid as you.

Probably because he thought it was a good idea, as I did and still do.

So what?
It's happened. Get the fuck over it.

@RodderUK: How the fuck can you get over something like Iraq when our troops are still occupying the country?