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o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:48 pm
by woodgnome
merely the latest installment in the lovable 'london evening standard' film critics campaign to save us from ourselves: Who's really being exploited? (i think a special note of commendation is in order for the last couple of sentences).

gawd bless yer, guv! yer gotta heart a gold to be finking wiv yer brain abaht us common folk! we'll only get up ta nah good, uvverwise.

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:46 pm
by WessexXXX.tv
Yea. I've just finished reading it.....before anyone asks - yes, we do get the London Evening rag down 'er in the sticks!!!!....

What a prat this man is. I thought the role of a 'critic' was to offer critisism, good or bad, not to preach their views to the public.

Part of what he writes is worth taking note of though....

'Excuses can always be found for the pornographer. The biggest excuse is, of course, the European Human Rights Charter, recently passed into British law, that guarantees "freedom of expression". I guess it will be on these grounds that the British distributor of Irreversible (The film under discussion) will justify his shamelessness in seeking a license to show it.'

Interesting that the Wicked Witch (Mrs. Blair)is a big advocate of the E.H.R Charter, stamping on anyone/thing that gets in it's way. Could be hope for us pornographers yet....

Discus....

Chris

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:48 pm
by Caractacus
Does anyone really pay any attention to what the pretentious tosspot says anyway?

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:49 pm
by joe king





I wonder if ALexander Walker 'harms' society. Case histories won't win the argument. Should Alexander Walker be allowed to reshape the 'sexual constraints' of society?

Interesting how pornography is here melded, confused and lumped in with 'violence'.
Interesting use of the word 'pornographer'.
'pornographically heightened' - interesting concept.

'The elements of pornography in such films, calculated at first to arouse and then quickly to debase and degrade spectators'

So - pornography arouses and degrades - what a fantastic medium, a rollercoaster of a medium/genre.

I think George Steiner used the word 'pornography' in an interesting way. He used it in the context of 'the pornography of noise' - i still haven't worked out what he was saying.
I was thinking why doesn't 'porno' fit -('the porno of noise') - some grammatical subtley I haven't worked out.

'Fearful and helpless, we now expect daily life to conform to the screen's frighteningly repetitive emphasis on violence'
Maybe we should have no violence in the news, so people aren't frightened anymore.






Did I see 2 planes going into those buildings?

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 3:42 pm
by Arch Stanton
It's in the tomb marked 'Unknown'.

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 4:07 pm
by marcusallen
I like the extract ( I assume) "Freedom of expression". What; provided we line Sullivan's pockets in his capacity of majority owner of our paltry amount of sex shops? (Talk about restriction of trade)!

Rules apply to the sale/supply of alcohol/tobacco, why should sexually explicit material be governed by a quasi official body - the BBFC? Cannot our political dictators find the guts to put it under either the DTI or the Home Office?
The answer I suspect is that the Govt. is (laughably) accountable to the populace - you and me.

It is far easier to throw criticism/blame etc on the BBFC and conveniently assume that we are all so ignorant as to not know that the BBFC is in turn governed by the VRA and hence the wheel turns full circle.

People like Walker fall into the age-old category of those who can -DO. Those who can't, become critics. To justify their existence, JOUNALISTS- provoke controversy and hence are "successful". For all we know, he wanks, spanks anfd says thanks to escorts BUT NOT IN PUBLIC.

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:36 pm
by jj
'The pornography of noise'?......on a bus this morning, a youth had a Walkman with some awful (c)rap blaring out S9 and wall-to-wall. NY-style emergency sirens, over-loud car-horns, morons who daily assail us with shouted 'intimate' conversations about their sex-lives, real or imagined......
Walker is that worst of all soi-disant critics, the
'intellectual' snob.....would he then ban 'Ai No Corrida' on the same grounds of motiveless and graphic sexual violence? I think not. 'Art is what I say it is'........

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:47 pm
by Crimpo
This dick proves that trolls don't only exist on the internet - this moron does it all over the airways and print media and gets paid truckloads of cash for his crap!

Crimpo (normally the voice of sweet reason and tight analytical comment but today you got me onto one of my pet hates!)

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:10 pm
by Officer Dibble
Yes, I fear all those who regularly buy The Standard do take notice and even if they do not wholeheartedly agree with A Walker he will still seep into their subconscious minds. There his ideas will germinate and give readers the general idea that society at large regards sex as being dirty, "degrading" "exploitative" and all sorts of other negative bullshit things. Then of course, when asked, they will feel obliged to publicly denounce any expression of sexuality in the media, as they will be afraid to be controversial and stick their sheep like heads above the parapet. Even if they quite like watching shag videos at home.

Officer Dibble on the other hand is made of sterner stuff and if some style challenged lairy tart with a blonde "Steps" haircut from morning TV stuck a mic in his leather and asked him if there was to much shagging on the box, he would say "No, there's not enough! Down with boring TV! Let's see 'Richard' shagging 'Judy' while getting his mitts on her giant jubblies! Cor! And what about Lorraine Kelly, Sophie Rayworth and the 'AOL' girl? - they?re all obviously gagging for it! Maybe they could appear in a new show called ?Pornstars? and have a serious dick sucking contest to determine who smokes the meanest beef!?

Alexander Walker is obviously an arrogant, pompous, reactionary upper middleclass twat (Tory Back Bench flavour if I?m not mistaken) who would greatly benefit from a slap if not a full-blown kicking.

Officer Dibble.

Re: o/t alexander walker alert!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:30 pm
by woodgnome
no need to be so moderate in your criticism: