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Beata(2) Query

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:16 pm
by Gus
Greetings



I strongly suspect that the girl listed as Beata(2) is the girl Erin/Yvette I have been collecting all these many years. She has never appeared in anything other than simulated h/c pictorials to my knowledge so I nearly had a heart attack when I was looking at Amanda Charles' website and saw the following movie.



If you register you can see some screenshots. I contacted Amanda to ask her if she could verify my suspicions but she wasn't prepared to do so after seeing a couple of headshots I sent her in case it turned out they were not the same girl. Honourable of her, I thought, but frustrating all the same. I did ask if she could provide a better screenshot so I could match moles and other distinguishing features but didn't push my luck when she ignored my request. She did tell me that her movie was filmed in 1995.

In one of the screenshots she does provide there is visible scarring between her Beata's(also called Kate Bella) eyes, when I look through some of my pictures I can convince myself that there is evidence of partial tissue anomolies beneath Erin/Yvette's makeup. Enough to be almost the 100% certain I need to be to purchase the movies she appears in.

I was visiting here the other day and once again, nearly had another heart attack when I saw your Beata(2) screenshot. That is the same girl that appears in Amanda's movie, the 3 movies you have listed her appearances in are all in the same 1995 timeframe too.

I have spent a hideous amount of hours since then trying to locate box covers of Christoph, Christophe, Christof, Christopher Clark's early movies.

I have the Cunt Training and Hot Drops covers (both essentially useless to determine her appearance at all) and the single evidence of Congratulations I could find, well wouldn't you know it but the picture refuses to work.

I have a couple of questions I'd appreciate some assistance with. You have Congratulations listed as one of Beata(2)'s credits therefore someone else here thinks enough of her to make a point of listing her. Who is responsible for making her entries and do they suspect she may have worked for any other directors?

Does anyone know where I can find a boxcover of Congratulations? I have scoured so many sites in vain that there must be something wrong with my search techniques. This is possible, I also have an interest in another model called Bella or Bela (appears at 1BD, Pgirls amonst other sites), and for the life of me I cannot find a single film credit for her (not counting the casting video for 1BD) and one must surely exist. I recently saw another chap ask over at adultdvdtalk but his question went unanswered which was almost an indication in itself that there mustn't be any information on her.

I have looked at all the sites in your links section and have been using them regularly myself a long time for other searches, does anyone have a list of European sites they check when looking for movies from the mid 90's era. French, Italian, Dutch and particularly a Germanic site list would give me something to work with. I don't want to be a bother, I am sure everyone here is busy with searches of their own but I have hit a standstill.

I plan on hitting the Magma, DBV, Dinovision, Videorama movies of the mid 90's to see if I can find more evidence. Any suggestions at all would be most gratefully received.

Does anyone here know by looking at a photoshoot who the photographer was, or the studio involved might be? Beata(2), if she is Erin/Yvette also appeared in an Interracial photoshoot of which there is very little evidence on the net. I have tried locating the initial source of these pictures by posting the odd request in RAME from time to time but to no avail. Does anyone know of European content sites where some of Erin/Yvette's photoshoots originate? I have checked Ounique and Paul Markham and many other content sites but come up empty handed.

I've even used Walter Burns (you do good work, kind sir) male performer lists at adultdvdtalk to try and locate the girl by following the male. Man, did I join a few yahoo groups under false intentions :-)

Hopefully someone can help me and sorry for so many questions.

Thanks for reading
Gus

Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:11 pm
by jj
I don't know if this is any help, but I've had a similar obsession with a 'Beata' for years.
The reason the name and your tale ring a bell is because this is the first name that I saw given to this girl (by Private: Castings 21, for a photoshoot only): she resembles the Beata[2] cap. quite a lot (but not enough for me to be definitive), but your Erin/Yvette not at all.
I subsequently found my Beata in Sodomania 10 (as Sindy, or Sandy, Clair: 1 scene with Christoph Clark, one with Roscoe Bowltree): : girl at top , and I am 99% sure she has also worked for A Charles, as I have two fairish-quality ripped scenes of theirs (I have never been able to identify which AC title they were from, otherwise I'd have replaced them.....), one with the late Nick aka Ben Lover (she in a camisole and knee-socks), and another with possibly their regular stud Carlos (to judge by his hirsutism and his going for the anal first), she this time in black hold-ups. The Clark connection is interesting in the light of your post and Beata[2]'s credits here.
She has a noticeable ridge of white scar-tissue between her eyes on the bridge of the nose, and a prominent mole on her upper left lip. There are a few other small moles on the front of her body. I'd guess she's a natural brunette.
I tried registering with AC for the screenshots you mention, but for some reason my log-in failed again: I have complained to them before about this, and will now take up the cudgels a little more strenuously.


Better pic

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:30 pm
by jj
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Inaccurate write-up, though.


Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:57 pm
by Gus
Hi jj

If you have no joy logging into Amanda's site I will upload the screencaps to my yahoo group. I have some older pictures of Erin/Yvette she did for Scoreland (dated 1998) and she definitely resembles Beata(2) a lot more in these, she is much younger and has long dark brown hair.
I checked out your Sindy Clair link, mate, my ticker is pounding, in all but the last cap where you can see that mole on her face it could be her and now I'm confused. It is possible we are both on the right track just coming from different directions, Sodomania 10 was filmed in 1994 according to the profile at talkingblue, Amanda's Beata filmed for her in 1995, in one of the screencaps you can clearly see a mole on her chest that could correspond with Erin/Yvette. It is possible that the facial mole on Sindy was removed after she decided to steer away from hardcore and go into photoshoots. That's a bit of a reach but for now I'm happy with the assumption. I'll admit that your Sindy doesn't quite resemble Erin/Yvette enough for my liking on the boxcover of Sodomanina but she sure does in the slideshow. What I don't understand is if it is the same girl is why she would do anal then only appear in softcore simulations thereafter. Now I might be completely wrong and have taken a shine to two girls who look very similar but the link could lie in Erin/Yvettes appearance in a Silwa magazine called Backside Girls 13, unfortunately I've found Silwa notoriously difficult to locate in any large volume. Searching through old forum messages on here last night I saw a chap mention that Beata(2) appears in Private Magazine 127 but for the life of me I can't find a cover of it, closest I got was 126 in some screencaps for Private Casting #3. Damn it, I used to be a member of Private about a year ago and I know they have all their mags listed there. I might put in a request on usenet and see if some kind soul will up it for me. I've checked out the crvideo site and there is a tiny movie .gif that could be our girl, but either I'm clicking the wrong links or they have only released a handful of movies in all the ensuing years.

Thanks for the reply, jj, let me know if you want me to up those screencaps.

Cheers
Gus

p.s I'll see if I can locate an Erin/Yvette picture with that scar tissue so you see why we might be after the same girl.


Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:24 pm
by jj
AC sorted me out today: from the caps, it's definitely MY Beata, aka Sindy Clair- from the scene with her in black stox. The other girl on the DVD is, I think, Private's Ana (done loads of stuff, especially for Clark), 4WIW.
The 'mole' issue is moot: these can easily be disguised with judicious make-up; and I feel that your 'anal vs. s/c' conflict is resolvable by postulating that Erin/Yvette, and Beata/Sindy Clair, are two different girls. However hard I try, I can't see a resemblance between your blonde and either Beata[2] or Beata/Sindy Clair- only between the latter two. The scar-tissue I think can be made out in the 'better pic' above (see also AC cap. 7), but I don't know what to make of this without good shots of all three.........
I'm not prepared to go with that Beata [2] cap. being the 'my' Beata without a look at the Clark vids (if only...........!!). This seems to me to be the best way forward if we could find the tapes. I did have a Dutch address that had a stock of old Clark vids, but I think I lost it in my last PC-crash.
The Private Mag shots you mention gel with my comment re Castings 21- 'Beata' is only cited for stills and TTBOMK I've never seen her in a Private vid (if only......part 2 !!).

Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:14 pm
by Takezho
Hi,

I agree with JJ, Beata [2] is his Beata. Pictures can be airbrushed to delete skin imperfections/tattoos/... but most of the time, websites leaves small moles. And in this case, the moles locations on Beata are different from the ones on Yvette/Erin.


[img]http://membres.lycos.fr/takezho/CC20-Beata.jpg[/img] (Vidcap from Congratulations, in that movie, she wears a wig)

[img]http://membres.lycos.fr/takezho/Beata.jpg[/img] (Vidcap from Hot drops)

[img]http://membres.lycos.fr/takezho/pir029m.jpg[/img] (from Pirate magazine 29)

[img]http://membres.lycos.fr/takezho/prv127m.jpg[/img] (from Pivate magazine 127)


Beata(2)- where are the vids?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:30 pm
by jj
Absolutely 100% sure these are all the same girl- so the Beata/Beata[2] is cleared up to my satisfaction at least.
Two problems now remain: the identity of Gus's blonde: and who I have to kill, blackmail or seduce to get hold of copies of the three Clark vids....(!!).
If anyone knows a source, or would sell me theirs, please, please, PLEASE,let me know: all my worldly goods are yours.

Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:13 pm
by Gus
Hi Takezho

I have a horrible feeling you and jj are right. The girl in the two mag pictures is definitely not my girl and even though the resemblance is close enough to cause me palpitations in the two movie screencaps I have been wondering if I was on the wrong track. It just doesn't make sense that Erin/Yvette would appear in h/c in the mid 90's but thereafter only appear in softcore/simulation photoshoots and not in those for at least another 2 years.

I did say earlier that I thought the missing link might be her appearance in the Silwa mag `Backside Girls #13' but I've since discovered that particular series is solo gapes so no real link to h/c anyway.

I plan on upping some further pictures to my yahoo group in a couple of days in the hope that someone might be able to tell me if they recognise the black male that appears in an interracial shoot with Erin. She has also appeared in a couple of pictorials with Tony de Sergio and other males that might or might not be German. If anyone here has 5 minutes I'd be interested if they'd look and see if they either recognise the males in her photos or possibly the source studio where the photos originated.

I've had a look around a large number of content sites and know that website owners don't always buy complete photoseries and I want to know if more material exists.

I also have a large list of the sites I scour looking for box covers/screencaps and while I expect most people here to have similar, I might have some that interest other searchers. I just need to go through and clean them up then I'll post them in my group in one html file.

Thanks for all your help, back in a couple of days with my yahoo link.

Cheers
Gus


Re: Beata(2) Query

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:37 pm
by Uchida
No other films made available on the market?, except for "sodomania10" and "Private casting x #21"


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