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I have just seen Altri desideri di Karin -- Mike Hunter Video's version Orgien der Wollust that is.

There were only two girls credited in this version: Karin Schubert and Marina Kiss. Given the fact that XNK2880 appears in at least 5 scenes (she has almost as much screentime as Karin Schubert) and XNK2882 only appears in the final mini orgy, I would say that XNK2880 is Marina Kiss and subsequently that XNK2882 is Fiorella Sciotti.

btw, in the version I saw, Karin Schubert watches some porn -- a 'good' excuse to insert some clips, I guess. All the clips come from American videos. I recognized John Holmes's scene with a bunch of American girls (Kimberly Carson, Becky Savage, Desiree Lane, ...) from the video California Valley Girls, but also Ginger Lynn, Amber Lynn, Herschel Savage, Marc Wallice and Steve Drake appear in clips from various sources.

Thanks. I've been uncertain that Altri desideri di Karin was the same film as Orgien der Wollust and I've done some further research with the help of the book DizionHard - see the About page, Acknowledgements for a link. It turns out that they are not the same but had a similar cast, and that, as was common with Italian films of the 80s, the same, limited, credit sequence may have been used.

Orgien der Wollust is Orgia libera, a separate film, and Marina Kiss is XNK2882. She had a bigger role in Altri desideri di Karin.

The name Fiorella Sciotti may have come from imdb and I'm not sure that, if such a person exists, she's in the film (or either film come to that) and it's probably best to remove her altogether.

By the way, the American footage used by Mike Hunter for the video watched by Karin replaced different, Italian, inserted footage in the original.

I didn't have time to do this research until after yesterday's update, which is why I didn't respond until now. I'll try to tidy the whole thing up for the next update.

Also thanks to all the people who posted information while I was away.

This is all very confusing.

The main question I have is who is XNK2880 if she is neither Marina Kiss nor Fiorella Sciotti?

btw, I recognize all the caps on the page of XNK2880 from Orgien der Wollust.

And what about the note on the page of Orgia libera: "also stars Tracey Adams as Marina Kiss"?

Italian 80s credits are always confusing and their usual lack of completeness, even when accurate as far as they go, makes it difficult to identify a film just from the credits. Hence the original mis-identification.

Yes, all the caps are from Orgien der Wollust aka Orgia libera.

XNK2880 plays the maid. DizionHard does not identify her by name. As I said, I don't know who Fiorella Sciotti is or where the name came from.

I'll remove the note re Tracy Adams. Please let us know if you spot any other instances of this note.

The name Sciotta Fiorella is in the credits of 2 movies that I've

Feuer der begierde with also
- Karin Shubert
- Marianne

Orgien der wollust with also
- Karin Shubert
- Denise Dio
- Marina Lotar

Both are already listed on EGAFD

T C

Thanks, but that illustrates the problem as Marina Lotar is not in Orgien der Wollust and the Mike Hunter DVD seems to use the Italian credits, just inserting the German title over Orgia Libera. These credits mention only Karin Schubert and Marina Kiss among the females.

The Mike Hunter DVD of Feuer der Begierden also uses Italian credits and doesn't mention Fiorella Sciotti.

But thanks as you've probably explained where the name comes from. It still may be an invented name though.