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Mara Fless
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:30 pm
by jj
The photo on her page is of Suzanne Wienold; SW shares the 'sheikh' scene in Stavros 2 with MF and Madalina Ray.
MF is also in the 2nd scene of Storie di Caserma 2 [ponytailed]. Distinguishing features: a prominent mole to the right of her mouth and a tattoo on her left shoulder.
To me she looks uncannily like [a slightly plumper and bustier] Eva Roberts, but I don't have an ER scene handy to compare.....
Die Kaserne is the German version of St di Caserma 1 [Caserma/Kaserne= 'barracks'].
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:46 am
by alec
Thanks a lot. Sorry for the delay in replying. The person who sent us the captures may agree with you but there also may be a misunderstanding.
Do you mean that Eva Roberts appeared under the name Mara Fless (and that the picture of Eva Roberts is of the same girl as the picture we currently have of Mara Fless) and Susan Wienold appeared under the name Silvia Askim? In which case we are missing a picture of someone.
And do you mean that both 'Mara Fless' and Susan Wienold appeared in Storie di Caserma 2?
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:06 pm
by jj
I've done some digging, and the old problems with Salieri stuff are still there with a vengeance.....now I remember why I'm prematurely grey.
The picture on Eva Roberts' page is definitely of her; I've looked at some other titles of hers, and she has that distinctive mouth mole and the tattoo over her left shoulderblade. Roberts [b/g] appears in the 2nd scene of Stavros 2, alongside Wienold [les only].
The picture on Mara Fless' page is of Suzanna Wienold. Both Roberts and Wienold have separate b/g scenes in St. di Caserma 2.
The credits for Stavros 2 refer to 'Silvia Askim' and 'Mara Fless', two 'collegiale'- these I assume to be Wienold and Roberts, in the 'sheikh' scene with Madalina Ray and Roberto Malone [and an unidentified belly-dancer]. There are 6 more unidentified 'collegiali' in the secondary credits, along with Julian Bador [i.e. Julia Taylor] and Paru Silios- presumably the non-sex roles].
The credits on my copy of St. di Caserma 2 only give six actresses' names, of whom 'Susan Wienold' is one- and Suzanna Wienold does indeed appear. Unaccounted-for are 'Eve Galias', 'Mara Fless' and 'Sandra Wicked'.
Assuming Ildiko Nicolas' identification to be correct in St. di Caserma 2 [and it seems to be consistent with Stavros 1, although it seems odd that a les-only appearance should rate 'second billing' here] we are left with Eva Roberts, Marzia Simonelli, Oceane and Grety Milos to match the above three aliases. Milos ['Eva Raso' in Stavros 1] might be 'Eve Galias', which would be consistent with identifying 'Mara Fless' as Eva Roberts to match the cast in Stavros 2. Wienold in Stavros 2 would then be 'Silvia Askim' [a name which appears nowhere else AFAIK], which would be consistent with both casts.
Sandra Wicked, at least as pictured here, does not appear in St. di Caserma 2, but the Stavros 1 credit for her as 'Mamma' seems correct....so Oceane and Simonelli, and 'Sandra Wicked "II" ' would still be unaccounted-for in St. di Caserma 2. 'Eve Galias' could of course be one of these rather than Grety Milos, whilst unaffecting the foregoing name-matches.
My head hurts.....
Cast breakdowns:
Stavros 2
1) Madalina Ray- b/g;
2) Eva Roberts- b/g, Suzanna Wienold- les, Julia Taylor- les, Madalina Ray [non-sex], belly-dancer [non-sex];
3) Patty Peage- strip, ?Cristina del Drago [non-sex];
4) Laura Angel- anal;
5) Anita Black- 'squaw';
6) Lisa Crawford- 'blind';
7) Joaly- b/g.
Storie di Caserma 2
1) Julia Taylor;
2) Eva Roberts;
3) Suzanna Wienold- intercut with:
4) Julia Taylor/Ildiko Nicolas;
5) Marzia Simonelli;
6) Grety Milos/Oceane- both anal.
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:52 pm
by alec
My head hurts - even more than it does already. I'll have to have a longer look at the above, and it seems best to proceed bit by bit anyway. Re the original Mara Fless / Eva Roberts / Susan Wienold problem, the easiest thing to do (for me) is to change the note 'as Silvia Askim' against Eva's entry for Stavros 2 to 'as Mara Fless', changing the alias as well, and to change the Mara Fless entry to Susan Wienold with Silvia Askim and suzanna Wienold as aliases. This will avoid swapping the pictures on the site, but will not take effect till Friday.
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:20 pm
by jj
Makes sense to me [I think...he said, reaching once more for the Ibuprofen].
As for Wienold, Susan/Suzan/Suzanna seem to be interchangeable and of course I've no idea which [if any] is correct.
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:57 pm
by alec
I've just had a longer look. We didn't have Sandra Wicked down for Storie di caserma 2 anyway, but we did have a Silvia Grent, though I can't remember where the name came from. I'll just remove her and add the others mentioned.
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:20 pm
by jj
I forgot to ask where 'SG' came from.
I thought my version of SdC2 [the Colmax] might have been butchered credit-wise during the edit. It wouldn't be the first time......
Re: Mara Fless
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:56 pm
by alec
It isn't only the credits they sometimes muck about with.