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Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:46 pm
by Denaniel
Does anyone know where i might find an online or otherwise 'published' list of the best European adult films of the golden age (circa 1969-1986)?

I've found several good lists for American films, which have only a handful of European ones that were released in the States. But i haven't found any quasi-official lists or even well-regarded reviewers' lists of the best European porn.

The American lists include:

Peter van Aarle's 1996 list at rame
http://anonym.to/?http://www.rame.net/a ... n_age.html

Blakefan's 2001 list posted to the AdultDVDTalk forum

and Jim Holliday's now out of print book ONLY THE BEST (1986).

Any suggestions on where to look would be most appreciated. Cheers.

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:09 am
by mulholand
Valid question, tricky situation. As far as I know, there isn't really a list. The main reason is probably that the US is one country and Europe is a bunch. European adult cinema is the combined works of (mainly) France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Spain, Greece and Turkey - very different countries with very different languages and in different corners of the continent. I'm sure there are national lists, mentioning national titles and some titles that were distributed in said country, but it's quite a mess. (information in English is also hard to come by, not least since the UK didn't get to do or see much adult cinema for quite a while due to censorship).

There really should be a list, as there are many, many gems out there (in my opinion often better than the US output). But it's down to a group of multilinguals to get the job done. They are up for a bit of hard detective work.


Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:03 pm
by beutelwolf
> Does anyone know where i might find an online or otherwise
> 'published' list of the best European adult films of the golden
> age (circa 1969-1986)?

As Mulholland said, it is mostly a matter of national lists, and in book form you can find the odd one.
For example, Stefan Rechmeier's book "Das Lexikon des Deutschen Erotikfilms" focuses on soft porn, but does include a number of hardcore flicks, which - by implication - are considered more important than others.
There are also books about Italian and French porn which would imply such lists.

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:20 pm
by alec
Why not start an informal list here?

France (not complete and in no particular order, and just my taste) -
Jouir! (in USA Sextasy)
Parties Fines (in USA Education of the Baroness)
Je suis ? prendre
Le Sexe qui parle (Pussy Talk)
La Femme objet (in USA Programmed for Pleasure)
Dans la chaleur de St. Tropez
Couple cherche esclave sexuel (in USA Serviced with a Smile)
Cette malicieuse Martine
La Rabatteuse
La Maison des phantasmes
Les Petites ?coli?res
Supr?mes jouissances
Le Retour des veuves
Auto-stoppeuses en chaleur (USA - Two at Once or Hitchhikers in Heat)
D?lires porno
Chaude et perverse Emilia
?changes de partenaires (in USA A Change of Partners)
Les H?tesses du sexe
L?che-moi partout (La Servante perverse)
Luxure (in USA Sweet Taste of Honey)
Les Mille et une perversions de Felicia (in USA Felicia)
Parties chaudes
Shocking!

and lots more.

I selected the ones I liked from the lists of Broittet lahaie and Karine Gambier. Haven't got time to pick out more at the moment, but no doubt others can add and disagree and add the films of other countries.

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:37 pm
by beutelwolf
here is a list of IMO the better German films of the Golden Age, in alphabetical order:

Abflug Bermudas
Die amouroesen Abenteuer des Mr O
Aus dem Tagebuch der Josefine Mutzenbacher
Die Beichte der Josefine Mutzenbacher
Bienenstich im Liebesnest
Catch Your Dreams
Claudio und seine Gespielinnen
Club 66
Ekstasen, Maedchen und Millionen
Emanuelle in Oberbayern
Firework
Geile Teenager
Ein guter Hahn wird selten fett
Heisse Naechte auf Schloss Dracula
Heisse Feigen
Heisse Schnecken
Inside Marilyn
Italienische Fruechtchen
Jill, ein feuchtfroehliches Maedchen
Josefine Mutzenbacher, wie sie wirklich war (1 to 4)
Der Junge mit der Tiefenschaerfe
Kasimir der Kuckuckskleber
Katharina, die nackte Zarin
Kursaison im Dirndlhoeschen
Lass jucken kumpel 5: Taeglich Blasmusik im Hinterhaus
Lauras Gelueste
Leos Leiden
Die Liebesvoegel
Love for Sale
Luesterne Engel
Das Lustobjekt
Die Maedchen des Herrn S
Die Masslosen
Mit Gurke und Banane
Palmen, Meer und nasse Grotten
Rasputin, Orgien am Zarenhof
Rosemaries Schleckerland
Rosi Nimmersatt
Schulmaedchen, die es wissen wollen
Das Sex-Abitur
Sock it to me, Baby
Die Superbumser
Supergirls for Love
Die suessen mit den kleinen Muschis
...und sie geniessen die Liebe
Verlorene Eier
Worksex
Zwei geile Hirsche auf der Flucht
Zweiundzwanzig Centimeter

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:49 pm
by mulholand
And this is the result of the Danish jury...

- I jomfruens tegn/"Virgo"
- I tyrens tegn/"Taurus"
- I tvillingernes tegn/"Gemini"
- I l?vens tegn/"Leo"
- Agent 69 Jensen i skorpionens tegn/"Scorpio"
- Agent 69 Jensen i skyttens tegn/"Sagittarius"

The "Zodiac" series. Very well-made period burlesque films (the last two are spy movie parodies), chock-full of pretty women and production values - as well as "regular" actors. It's never been done like this before or since.

- Der m? v?re en sengekant/Come to My Bedside
- Hopla p? sengekanten/Danish Escort Girls
- S?m?nd p? sengekanten/Bedside Sailors

Similar approach as the Zodiac films, but they take place in modern Denmark, so less burlesque stuff. The last three installments of the originally soft "Bedside" series became increasingly harder.

- N?glehullet/My Teenage Daughter
- The Hottest Show in Town

Two gems.

And then, Sweden.

- Porr i skandalskolan/The Second Coming of Eva
- Flossie
- Justine & Juliette
- Bel Ami
- Molly

Essential stuff, all by Mac Ahlberg under the pseudonym of "Bert Torn".

Many of these are now available on DVD, remastered and crisp-looking. For more info, look up their individual entries.


Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:07 pm
by Denaniel
Thanks so much for your thoughtful repsonses! Special kudos to alec and beutelwolf for providing those lists.

Anybody out there familiar with the Italian, Greek, Scandinavian, Spanish and/or Turkish films?

Here are some of my personal additions, without repeating the German ones and including some add'l French (sans Brigitte and Karine):

Adorable Lola - 1981
Amour aux sports d'hiver, L' - 1981
Bel Ami - 1976
Dans la chaleur de St-Tropez - 1982
Diamond Baby - 1983
Eugenie - 1970
Fabodjantan - 1978
Fessee, La - 1976
French Satisfaction - 1983
I jomfruens tegn - 1973
Petites filles au bordel - 1980
Philosophie dans le boudoir, La - 1969
Salon Kitty - 1976
Sexe qui parle, Le - 1975
Veuves en chaleur - 1978
Vild pa sex - 1974
Wild Playgirls - 1984

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:19 pm
by mark shanon
I'm curious about turkish porn. Any title, mulholand?
Also, you left out Holland and Swiss. Not great output there, but relevant.

Anyway, I think a good idea would be to open up different polls by nation and make a best ten (in the case of bigger nations, even best twenty or thirty) which one can vote for. A work in progress, though.
And I don't second beutelwolf implied suggestion of just making a list of all the production. The titles he list are of different value and I think that the question here is of choosing what one thinks are the best ones, even at cost of leaving out good movies. Of course only a few here have seen all (well, that which was traced) of the production of a single country (which, anyway, it is impossible to trace anyway, as far as the bigger countries are concerned), let alone the other ones. The polls would allow anyway even those who watched a single movie to vote for it. But of course this would mean extra work for the moderators and I doubt they'd be willing to spend time on it.

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:40 pm
by Denaniel
Thanks for the Scandinavian additions, muholand. I was composing my message while yours posted. Cheers.

Re: Seeking list of the best Euro classics

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:26 pm
by mulholand
Mark, I didn't know about any Dutch or Swiss output in the "Golden Years". Lasse Braun (who worked in Holland) and Erwin C Dietrich (who is Swiss) comes to mind, but their productions are as internationally varied as Jess Francos, aren't they?

The history of Turkish erotica is accounted for in Pete Tombs well-researched book "Mondo Macabro" ("in 1979 193 films were produced in Turkey. 131 were porn.") and there are some sites selling VCDs from the era. I have yet to "go there" myself, but seems like a good place to start. One Zerrin Egeliler seems to have been the greatest star. Google her and you'll get a whole lot of pictures.