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Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:57 am
by Walter Burns
We have received a submission on the IAFD claiming that Christina Redgrave from
Lolita is in fact
Aliona/Kristina.
It's been a long time since I have seen this film, but I should have recognized her at the time. I did not.
Does anyone here agree or disagree with the above submission?
Or.
Does anyone have screencaps for
Lolita besides the ones on EGAFD now, which proof or disproof the submission? The headshots for the unknowns on EGAFD are clearly not Aliona.
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:09 am
by jj
I haven't checked the flick recently, but my notes for 'Lolita' list Aliona. I'll cap when I get time.
I believe I'd assumed that Chr. Redgrave was her alias in this on the strength of Christina [or orthographic variants thereof] having been used for her in other titles.
She's so recognisable that I don't think I'd have made an error.
XNK2105 is the transsexual who Gessica eventually has sex with.
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:28 am
by Walter Burns
Thanks.
I will wait before making any chances till I have seen the caps.
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:46 am
by alec
We've also received a similar e-mail recently. I've assumed it's correct for now, but I'm prepared to correct it again.
I haven't seen the film. We were sent the caps, and Aliona is not among the caps we were sent. Maybe they were done from an incomplete copy. There is also the potential of a mix-up between films in a "series", with the same cast appearing in the credits of each one. We have Lolita 2 as an alternative title of the MMV version. I'm not sure why they did that. Is it because they had previously released the Kelly Trump film?
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:27 am
by candela
Here is a picture of Aliona taken from the German MMV Lolita 2 DVD in a scene with Bruno SX.
[IMG]http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7307/alionalq7.th.jpg[/IMG]
I have nothing to do with recent emails to EGAFD or IAFD but I already made
this post on EGAFD last year which apparently went unnoticed
There are either multiple versions of this movie or the MMV Lolita 2 DVD is incomplete. Screenshots on the MMV cover of Lolita 1 (on the disc is in fact the entirely different Joe D'Amato movie) are from scenes that are not on the Lolita 2 DVD.
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:08 pm
by Walter Burns
candela wrote:
> Here is a picture of Aliona taken from the German MMV Lolita 2
> DVD in a scene with Bruno SX.
That's good enough for me.
> There are either multiple versions of this movie or the MMV
> Lolita 2 DVD is incomplete. Screenshots on the MMV cover of
> Lolita 1 (on the disc is in fact the entirely different Joe
> D'Amato movie) are from scenes that are not on the Lolita 2
> DVD.
I don't understand this correctly, I guess. What do screenshots on the cover of one film have to do with another film?
btw, I have seen
Lolita (2) as
For Sentimental Reasons. I don't remember who distributed it here.
Also, in my copy a performer was credited as Sabrina de Angelis. I assumed it was the tranny who got involved with Gessica Massaro.
Now I see that EGAFD already lists a
Sabrina de Angelis.
I 7 vizi capitali is her only title, which also stars Gessica Massaro. Makes me wonder if a) Sabrina de Angelis is indeed the tranny from
Lolita, or even b) if
I 7 vizi capitali is the original Italian title of
Lolita?
OK, according to
this webpage I 7 vizi capitali =
Lolita (2).
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:20 pm
by candela
>I don't understand this correctly, I guess. What do screenshots on the cover of one film have to do with another film?
Well if you read my
previous thread you can see the DVD covers. MMV has released 2 DVDs called Lolita 1 and Lolita 2. The covers make them look like sequels. But Lolita 1 is in fact a completely different Joe D'Amato movie. However, the cover shows scenes from the real Lolita film but those scenes are not on the Lolita 2 dvd. Therefore there must be different versions of this movie or the Lolita 2 dvd is incomplete.
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:44 pm
by Walter Burns
I knew about Lolita 1 & 2 being different films (I have seen both).
I didn't read your thread -- otherwise I wouldn't have done research on I 7vizi capitali or Sabrina De Angelis.
I see your point now. I got confused because I had a different idea than you about what you meant by the expression "real Lolita film". For me the 'real' Lolita film is the D'Amato one. Lolita is part of the original Italian title of the D'Amato film, while this is not the case for the film I have seen as For Sentimental Reasons. So in effect, I thought you were saying that screenshots of the D'Amato film on the box cover of MMV's part 1 were not in MMV's part 2, so part 2 was edited, which made no sense to me.
In conclusion, we can assume that I 7 vizi capitali is probably the same movie as Lolita as released by Colmax in France. And that MMV has released an edited version of the film as Lolita 2. Do you happen to remember the duration of Lolita 2 as released by MMV?
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:53 pm
by jj
Re: Christina Redgrave
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:54 pm
by candela
>Do you happen to remember the duration of Lolita 2 as released by MMV
81 min.