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French speakers: Need your help re Blue One DVD

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:15 am
by Denaniel
I've heard many opinions but nothing definite as to why Blue One DVD has shortened most of the classic French films on their triple feature DVDs.

I'm wondering if any French speakers have read an explanation directly from Alpha France/Blue One DVD?

If not, can anyone who reads French search the web and find an explanation, and then share it with the rest of us?

The worst example I've seen yet is Ond?es Br?lantes, which they cut from 78 minutes down to 36! The other two films on the DVD are a little over one hour each, so the three together total well under 3 hours running time. The strange thing is they added 16 minutes of trailers (already available on other Blue One DVDs) in lieu of all the cut footage from the original films.

Would really love to hear a legitimate explanation for this travesty!

Re: French speakers: Need your help re Blue One DV

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:21 am
by dopa
Maybe there was a hint of underage, inc$est etc so that flags their censor systems.

Daft bastards - I'd be really mad if I were you Denaniel and ask for a refund.

Just tell them - give me my hard earned cash back or I'll bring this shitty behaviour on all boards,
what a lousy dealer you are and so on and so forth.

Don't let them get away with it man - otherwise they'll be more horror stories - I mean, come on.


Re: French speakers: Need your help re Blue One DV

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:05 am
by Denaniel
[quote]Maybe there was a hint of underage, inc$est etc so that flags their censor systems.[/quote]

Sorry, if you look at the longer, alternate versions of many Blue One DVD films, e.g. Alpha France video, Caballero (U.S.) DVD, Mike Hunter (German) video and/or DVD -- the underage, inc$est, and other "taboo" possibilities don't apply.

Other possible explanations i've heard thus far:

1. Films had to be shortened to fit three on one disc; not enough space on one DVD-9 for more than 3 hours. Fewer films per disc is not economically viable for classic films with a limited audience.

If this is the only reason, then put two films on one disc instead of three, and keep the original footage intact. I think many collectors would be much happier with this option, and perhaps even more would purchase the DVDs if the films were intact.

2. Blue One producers have high standards for film quality, and they edited out the poorer quality sections of some older films for which no better footage could be found.

This seems plausible, but again, looking at some of the longer versions of Blue One films, the footage that was cut is often in perfectly good condition.

Still waiting for a French speaker to share Blue One's official explanation. Cheers.

Re: French speakers: Need your help re Blue One DV

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:15 am
by dopa
AFAIC, these are even crappier excuses. I can live with them being worried with the content and thus editing anything hinting underage, but this - I mean... Jesus.

Trying to fit all 3, so the decide to edit an orgy scene at the end say. That's ridiculous to say the least.

Wow, this is money well spent.

Full original version ? VHS ! + Reasons inside...

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:09 pm
by boa
Do not torture yourself about finding the reason of all that : reason is very obvious and simple in spite of the denegations of the Blue One boss (better editing, improving and so on and so on).

The reason is simple money making : they better sell a "3 movies pack" than a "2 movies pack" because people do not know that the "3 movies pack" are almost always badly cut, and because they think they are doing a good bargain, whereas they are doing a very bad one, actually.

The proof : they could - Denaniel is absolutely right when he propose such a solution - put only 2 movies, and still include some trailers at the end... and they sometimes offers such a double-pack but unfortunately, most of the time, they do not do it for the above-mentionned reason. They prefer cheat people with their f...ing 3-[cut] movies pack offer.

The editing is done - all concerned hardcore movie people from Paris knows it - by the Blue One boss himself, or under his direction.

It goes very far in denaturing the original movie that he produced and distributed himsef in the past : the original beginning of LES PLAISIRS SOLITAIRES directed by Francis Leroi, for example, was assuming that all the following action was a big "flash-back", ... then coming back to the beginning now explained. All that original structure is lost by the new editing. The only way, once again, to find back the original movie is to screen its original VHS, distributed 10 or 20 years ago by the same man... who at that time was only changing titles or element of credits from time to time (not always, thanks to God) but never cut inside the movie itself.