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Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:04 pm
by Len801


Female cast (as shown on screen):
Beatrice Valle, Maeva Dream=Maeva, Tania Lariviere, Nadine Bronx (unable to tell whether it is the Valerie-15 listed in EGAFD, since there is no photo of her posted there), Nathalie St Charles=Nathalie Wood

Male Cast: Stanislas Piotre, Richard Voisin, Ivan, Philippe Soine (unbilled)

Scene breakdown:
(1) Maeva (solo masturbation)
(2) Stan, Tania Lariviere (deep throat, open-mouth facial)
(3) Richard Voisin, Nadine (very attractive blonde) (anal, facial)
(4) Scene shot outdoors (apparently in a park at night, very dark photography, it must have been cold, she is wearing a fur coat, and both males have heavy clothing), Richard Voisin, Ivan, Beatrice Valle (Ivan jerks off on her ass)
(5) Scene set in a train (toilet and train compartment): Philippe Soine (unbilled), Nathalie (facial)
The best looking female is course Nadine, and the worst scene in the movie is Beatrice Valle's park scene, which does her injustice and Richard does not even appear to cum. Tania says she is French-Canadian (she has the accent to prove it) and does a fantastic deep throat on Stan (obnoxious as ever). The Maeva scene (here she is dark blonde hai) is also very weak since she only masturbates and during the interview the man behind the camera is breathing heavily and ruins the soundtrack.

Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:35 pm
by Len801
Since I was curious about Nadine Bronx, I noticed she is listed in IAFD database:

and she is listed as being in OFFERTES A TOUT #2 and #3. She looks very gorgeous in #2, and the photo in IAFD (obtained from Private) is downright awful and "criminal"..

Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:10 pm
by candela
Onscreen date is 1993

Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:41 pm
by Len801
In looking at the few exterior shots, you can see it is cold: people are dressed in heavy clothing, trees are not in full foliage and there are plenty of dead leaves on the ground. I would surmise it is winter.
I don't know when it was released in France, but the movie was released in Nord America around october 1993. The movie does carry at the end a copyright logo indicating 1993. If EGAFD prefers to rely on 1993 as year of distribution, so be it. But I would guess the movie was shot either in late 1992 or at the very latest, early 1993.

Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:53 pm
by jj
Len801 wrote:
> ....If EGAFD
> prefers to rely on 1993 as year of distribution, so be it.

It's pretty hard [or impossible] to establish date-of-shooting,
however historically interesting, for many [most] films, so using
the release-date is IMO the only practical approach. If known, the
former could/should be added in a footnote.


Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:18 pm
by Len801
JJ, year of production or release for the majority of euro movies is pretty much in the air, even in modern times.
There is very little documentation with regards to either, and on the positive side VMD usually does slap on a copyright date at the end of the movie (which does not necessarily mean that's when it was released).
These movies were made pre-internet age, and it's hard to get documentation regarding their release.
European producers/distributors and on-line merchants generally do NOT want you to know, as they keep repackaging the movie in various countries under a variety of titles. Telling you a move was made in 1993 would be a kiss of death for a lot of comsumers who are trying to get the latest releases.
1993 date for this movie would be quite acceptable, and I suspect it was made either in 1992 or definitely no later than 1993.
Since Candela made mention of the 1993 copyright, I was just trying to provide more background information.
Back in the 1990's some large US companies used to release movies 1-2 years after making them. Trying to figure out when they were made is tricky. These days the period between actual shooting and release is generally quite short, except in cases when a number of the scenes/episodes were shot for internet content over a period of months or years.

Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:09 pm
by jj
I see what you say, but we have to go with something : -)

If it's any consolation, when I say: "DOP 1992", for example, it's
always with the mental reservation "or earlier".


Re: Offertes A Tout 2 (1992)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:19 pm
by Len801
Like I said, I have no problem with 1993 as being the "official" French date of release. It's what on the movie proper and I have no major argument with that.
I am usually more drawn (whether dealing with mainstream or hc movies) to try to pin down a shooting/production date/year, and fortunately for many of the American movies made after 1995, it is generally recorded. However in the past few weeks, I have discovered a negative trend in that in many if not most of the recent American DVD porn releases, the porn companies no longer are placing the "production date" on back of the DVD box. All they record is that they respect the provisions of code 2257. I am unsure why is that. I don't know if I missed something. Perhaps someone can clarify.