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(1) Does anyone have any info (including video box cover, original title) on this movie? Could it be a french release of a Gerard Damiano movie (from the looks of the cast mentioned in the above link)?
(2) The title as listed in EGAFD is mispelled (unless it was mispelled in the movie credits or video box cover art). It should be Club Priv? with one "e" not two, since "club" is masculine.

Given the cast match ups - try this



LeC.

Perhaps.... But the same people have starred in a variety of Moana Pozzi movies. The term "CLUB PRIVE" means a "swingers club". But the activity of MALIBU SPICE involves a fitness club. But the retitling of hard-core movies has never been very logical or literary.
If CLUB PRIVE is in fact MALIBU SPICE, then it is a US production, shot in the USA by an american director, produced and distributed by a US company (Caballero), with mostly an American cast, and in english dialogue. In which case it really does not belong in the EGAFD database.
Perhaps the EGAFD mods can clarify where the info about CLUB PRIVE came from and why it was included in its database.

FYI - the only film that both IMdb and IAFD show Moana and Ashlyn Gere together in is Malibu, that's what I based my assumption on, just trying to help.

If someone actually has a copy of this "Club Privee" maybe they can tell us if it's about a swingers club or health club, as you say, re-naming is ubiquitous and not always literal. In literal translation, Prive would simply be "private", and not necessarily mean "swingers", although from our warped perspective that would be our first inclination...!

LeC.

"Prive'" does mean "private", but the expression "club prive'" would be normally translated as "swingers club".
The problem with this title is that Google (although not infallible in such cases) (even Google.fr) does not seem to have turned up any evidence or indication of such a title.
But there must have been some oriiginal consideration for EGAFD to have entered it in their database.
With regards to Moana Pozzi, I find it curious that EGAFD chooses to include some softcore titles in her filmography, when I can see no justification for it. Moana appeared in quite a lot of mainstream and erotic soft-core movies, but to list just a handful in EGAFD makes no sense to me.
I think it is time to jettison these non-hard core titles.

Agree about the s/c stuff, but would argue for retention of the 'US' titles as
many of them had Euro releases under different titles- and more importantly I
think it's good for future research to have them all gathered in the place where
the expertise is strongest.

The problem with your suggestion JJ (and I am not entirely against the idea) is that it is presently quite selective and arbitrary, as it it applies to mainstream or softcore titles and whether a movie is a US or Euro production.
We have had this discussion before, but it has never been resolved.
Softcore/mainstream titles no matter who stars in it have no business or justification being included in this database.
As for hardcore titles, a certain number of US performers have done work outside the US, and some Euro performers have worked in the US. Some better yardstick measuring device must be thought out to determine (through a number of factors lke: production/distributing company, director, performers, language, themes, etc) its pedigree.
A good case in point is this CLUB PRIVE title. If it is a Euro dubbed version of MALIBU SPICE, then that is clearly a 100% American production. So just because an American movie (and there are plenty even very current titles) may have had a Euro release by way of different titles, it hardly makes sense to have it included in the EGAFD database. That would be a better job for which IAFD may be better suited for.
Just my two cents.

I'm not sure a line can ever be drawn rigidly between the two. I still believe the
'case by case' appproach is the best.

If you look at bgafd you will see that a Brit girl's titles, wheresoever in the World
they are made/financed/produced/dreamed up, are included, even if details are much
sketchier for most of these 'foreign' films [although strongly I take issue with
their inclusion of the legion US comps.- which have greatly overinflated, for
example, Rox Hall's oeuvre]. I personally would like to see egafd ['European GIRLS']
emulate this eventually...... while I greatly admire iafd and Walter- who is doing
his single-handed best to bang the Euro drum therein- I'm not entirely sanguine
about their ability to best deal with 'borderline' titles of the nature of the current
instance. In short, iafd has and will continue to have a predominantly US bias.
Not a criticism; merely an observation.

I think overall BGAFD's approach is probably the best. At least they try as much as possible to be complete as to a peformer's movie output, regardless of where it was made.
IAFD was and remains (with the exception of Walter Burns' Euro listings) a US movie database.
EGAFD takes a rather odd approach, with some arbitrary inclusion of softcore titles and random inclusion of what are patently American movies.
I don't mind the case by case approach, especially when it is very difficult o include the movie's "national" pedigree, but when the pedigree is way too obvious it should ditch those titles, regardless of whether those american movies received distribution in various european territories in a variety of foreign titles.

I'm quite surprised- we seem broadly to agree : -)
I'd take a 'harder-line' tack, though. While excluding Euro-born perfs. whose
output has been excluisively [or nearly so] US like Tracy Love, I'd like eventually
to see all titles attributed to any Euro-born girl who has done at least one
demonstrably European flick. We then of course hit the wall of expanded scope
and finite resources, alas.
It would definitely be a long-term goal !!