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GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:35 pm
by Len801
This movie does not seem to be in EGAFD database.
I am presently dusting off an old Sexy Luna filmography I made back in 2007,
when there was not that much material on the web aside from some video
box covers I located at the time.

So JJ, I need your input on a title called GANG BANG OF NEW YORK.
It seems to be a porn take-off of Martin Scorsese's gargantuan GANGS OF
NEW YORK (2002).
[img]http://www.superzeta.it/gallery/image.php?pic_id=31760[/img]

You can see how some scenes transpire from the thumbnails on the back of the
box cover. The full movie seems to be about 110 minutes long, but there seems to
floating about other versions about 85 minutes long, and from screencaps I
have found on the web, the scenes are dramatically different.
For instance, one (the short) version has (in its initial scene) Horst Baron
in bed with Sexy Luna (anal), while another version (the long) has Franco Roccaforte
and Sexy Luna, fucking in front of a lit fireplace (also anal).
In the short version around the 55 minute mark I see a blonde mature woman
who I believe to be this Karola.


Frankly I am confused with this mishmash of scenes, and I am wondering if you
are familiar with this title and what transpired with the different editing/tinkering.




[img]http://img8.imagetwist.com/i/01309/8rh0xb8tr3ei.jpg[/img]

[img]http://s2.pic4you.ru/allimage/y2013/03- ... 03383.jpeg[/img]

Thanks....

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:35 pm
by jj
Another hack-job, methinks.... Tera Bond @25'07", Susanne Brend @54'25".
More to follow......


Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:36 pm
by jj
I seem to have the 'short' version [86 min.], identical in timeline to those
screens. It strikes me as a coherent narrative [at least, for a porno] and
is not a comp.- video characteristics are constant throughout.
The only slight difference I can find is the crediting of a 'Giulia' on the
cover- no such name appears in the screen-credits.


Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:46 pm
by Len801
If your short version reflects what the screencap sheet I posted,
then I suspect the Roccaforte/Sexy Luna scene at least is missing.
Is this so?

If you cannot reconcile "Giulia" from box cover (or movie) credits, who is Martina?

Is your short version also from FM?

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:49 pm
by jj

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:16 pm
by Len801
Yes, but you opened a movie page of a short(er) 86 minute version.
It would appear Sexy Luna has 3 sex scenes: one with Roccaforte (in
front of a lit fireplace), one with Baron (on a bed), and another with an
unknown male (on top of a table I think). I think some things are missing
from the short version in your possession which is the basis of the EGAFD
movie page, and the short version seems to have certain scenes rearranged.

From what I can see in examining the screencaps of both versions, the short
version does not have the Franco Roccaforte/Luna scene.

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:30 pm
by jj
Len801 wrote:
> Yes, but you opened a movie page of a short(er) 86 minute version.
I made an entry for the film I have seen. Luna has one scene, with Baron.


> It would appear Sexy Luna has 3 sex scenes.... the short version seems
> to have certain scenes rearranged.
One could argue the converse- that the longer version has simply had
two extraneous Luna scenes added.


Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:55 pm
by Len801
JJ, I respectfully disagree with your conclusions about the 86 minute version, and I will clarify:
=Franco Roccaforte is billed very prominently on box cover, but in the 86 min
short version his scene with Sexy Luna (running about 22 minutes) is completely
missing. So you believe that Roccaforte scene was just inserted there for what
reason? To pad out the running time for a LONGER version? Why would the
distributor indicate Franco Roccaforte on box cover, but not having him appearing
in the (short) movie? But we have the proof that the scene with Sexy Luna is there
in the long version.

=there is another Sexy Luna scene (also quite long) she has on top of a table
with a male. In the long version the scene is long and complete.
In the 86 minute version it is either abbreviated (or deleted) and filled with just
non sex dialogue and scenes.
Both scenes in question show all the performers in costume and period settings, which
means they were shot at the same time, and were not just "inserted" from
other previously shot material.
The only problem is I don't now which (movie) came movie first or whether they
were released pretty much at the same time.
Whether the 86 min version seems to have a certain logical "flow" or not makes
little difference. The long extended version seems to contain what was shot at the time
and to a great extent what was billed on box cover.
Those two scenes in question are not "extraneous" since as I have indicated and
you can see from caps that they are costume and proper period settings.

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:04 pm
by Len801
I found the caps of the 17 minute scene Sexy Luna has on a bed (I believed at first
to be a table). You can see they are in costume and in proper period settings.
This scene is missing from the short 86 min version

[IMG]http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc1198/th_253251622_GangBangofNewYork_123_1198lo.jpg[/IMG]

Can you tell whether this male may appear in any of the sex or non-sex scenes of the
86 min version?

Re: GANG BANG OF NEW YORK

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:18 pm
by Len801
I have found another set of caps of the 86 minute version, and at around the 36 minute mark
I see about 3 males roughing up a (black?) man in the streets.
If he is Franco Roccaforte, then in the 86 minute version what is his role (small non
sex cameo?).

[IMG]http://img34.imagevenue.com/loc349/th_254141148_GangBangofNewYork_FRoccaforte_123_349lo.jpg[/IMG]