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I assume this American production (apparently shot in Budapest)
qualifies for EGAFD inclusion, due to an Italian-dubbed release with different
title and cast names (supposedly to hide its origins)

Original title:
FULL ANAL ACCESS 3
(2003,Platinum-X)
director: Michael Stefano
starring: Dora Venter, Alissa, Nika Blond, Victoria, Vanessa Mae, Sarah O?Neal,
Sandra Romain, Michael Stefano, Steve Holmes, Nacho Vidal, Neeo, Marco Nero
(produced in Sept 2003, released in USA in Feb. 2004)

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It was later released in Italy by FM Video as
TORERO 11
director name given: Jocelin
but having different billings for the female performers
(I hope I got them right by analysing the video box cover):
Dora=Dora Venter, Mia=Alissa, Maria=Victoria, Silvia=Nika Blond,
Petra=Sarah O'Neal, Monica=Vanessa Smoke
Sandra Romain is not billed in screen credits or box cover. She completely left out.

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The trouble with this is, we KNOW it was initially released as FAC3.
The new credits are obviously faked and a very poor disguise. I'm not saying
it is- but the effort has more in common with piracy than release under licence.

Yes, it features a majority of Euro perfs. and it's possible it was filmed
in part or whole over here.
But it's US-financed for a US studio, ostensibly with a US director.

And yet I see titles in EGAFD of American produced/financed movies, with
American and Euro cast, that are in EGAFD only because they were
released in Euro by local distributors.
Do you think the recently discussed GO FOR IT was really a Euro production? Why
does it deserve to be in EGAFD?

I have fairly represented the pedigree of this particular title. It is a US
release shot in Budapest, released by Platinum-X in the USA directed by an
American and featuring mostly Euro cast.

Frankly I do not know what yardstick EGAFD uses for inclusion or exclusion
of certain titles.

Len801 wrote:
> Frankly I do not know what yardstick EGAFD uses for inclusion
> or exclusion of certain titles.

A yardstick made of rubber : -)
IMO this has an extremely weak claim for inclusion.

More pertinently and personally, I would rather focus on the mountain-range
of echt Euro titles currently waiting addition to the db. Assuming that
Himalaya ever becomes levelled and I find myself at a loose end, twiddling
my thumbs, I will happily look at duplicating iafd's data and bung all these
Transatlantic efforts in here as well.

I am/was not attempting to duplicate IAFD's database. Never been my goal
or slight desire.
I did not pass this info to them, but to EGAFD as I thought and assumed in light
of past large exceptions, that it would qualify for EGAFD inclusion.
My mistake...
It took me some time to figure out what the origins of this FM Video release was,
considering they changed the director's name and cast names.
Whether FM Video has a legitimate right to release this US production in Italy
I have no knowledge or clue. FM Video has cobbled lots of scenes from other euro
productions in a number of titles. But this one was a totally complete release
from a US movie, not just a scene here and there....
Anyooooo, I rest my case and I accept your final decision....

We've been here before- and I expect pand in a way, hope] we'll be here
again in the future.

I/we do try to avoid duplication, in general- but where unarguably Euro stuff
is concerned I take the view that it's them trespassing on OUR turf : -))
Of course, in many cases it's unavoidable- but duplication is only one factor
of the many that come into play.
Be assured your detective work is appreciated, as always- and it will yield
valuable info for tracking the status of other Torero vols. [IIRC I posted
here a while back, suggesting that the early volumes were OK but that later
ones probably would not be].

Another factor militating against the inclusion of FAC3, in any form, is that
other volumes of the series are wholly 'American-staffed'.
Believe me, it would be easier for all if a Rule could be formulated- but
life is never that easy : -)