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production centers

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:31 am
by simca
Hi there,

Would anybody know where I can find information on what currently are the main production centers in Europe (so not just where models come from)? Would Prague or Budapest be the main center? And is there any local production left in the old centers like Scandinavia or the Netherlands? I also hear that American producers have been moving production to Europe after Measure B was passed in LA. Can that be confirmed?

Thanks!

Re: production centers

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:25 pm
by Len801
sica said
>I also hear that American producers have been moving production to Europe after Measure B was passed in LA. Can that be confirmed?
Who do you expect will tell you?
Shooting permits in LA are way down, notwithstanding Measure B and OSHA biting at their heels, no one will tell you where porn is being shot.
For last couple of years the LA-based porn industry has been threatening to relocate elsewhere. But LA
is where the performers, directors, producers/distributors, all live and do business.
And there is the question of of jurisdiction and legality of porn outside of California.
And should the US porn industry "move" to Europe, what does that mean exactly?
A studio? Executive offices, production facilities? And you think young female performers will
just go live in Hungary or Czech republic, where the per-scene pay scale is half of what she earns
for a LA shoot?

Re: production centers

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:55 pm
by jj
This ties in with the O/T end of that other thread.
One of the definite recent trends has been the decentralization of the industry,
with web-content being shot practically anywhere. The US outfits that manage
to relocate their shoots [offshore but -as you say - probably not in Europe],
or otherwise get round M. B, may survive; otherwise [imports aside, which I
believe are next in the Congressional firing-line] the US scene will soon be
entirely Vivid-ized.
The US legislators have learned from Prohibition, that bans do not work - but
they seem not to have not learned that gradual strangulation of an industry
will merely force it underground, where regulation will be impossible. This will
in turn lead to an increase in law-enforcement appropriation-requests, a la
the insane "drugs war", and a few billion more bucks will needlessly go down
the toilet. I bet that little sum won't appear in any Senate financial forecast....
The answer to both 'problems' is [discarding the inane prattlings of the
moralists] is: legalize it, tax it, regulate it.


Re: production centers

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:47 pm
by Len801
The problem with porn (at least the US perspective from the 1970's) has always been
that it is "legal" (freedom of speech an that that garbage) yet at the same time, no one
wishes or even tries to abide by the standards that other industries and businesses have to.
Safety standards? What safety standards? Well we test once (now 2 times) a month. That should do it.
As if these porn performers lead"saintly" lives and just fuck with themselves only on porn sets.
STD? What STD? HIV? That only happens outside of a porn set.
Condoms? Who needs condoms? Our customers don't want to see scenes wiith condoms, and
during a hectic sex scene, they break and need to be frequently replaced, and a number
of actresses/actors can't "perform" well with condoms.
Shooting Permits? Who needs shooting permits? They cost money, and we definitely
don't want to tell you where and when I'm shooting so you can bust me for all kinds of things.

A lot of stuff that is not avaliable on DVD is indeed available on the web (and I am not even talking
about Euro web sites). Incest, fisting, pissing, BDSM mixed with sex, etc is
freely available on US-based web sitres, but is not put out on DVD for "obscenity" concerns.

I cannot see any real logical reason for US relocation of porn production in Europe or elsewhere. They will continue
to fight, go rogue and just purchase as much product as they can from
outside sources (as they have been doing in these last few years).
Once in a while there will be some big fine levied to a production company, an odd oscenity case
just so just for the US authorities to demonstate to the public at large that it is being well protected.
Banning porn (as a form of "free speech") is problematic, and if more strict measures
are applied on that industry it will drive things underground and no doubt nastier, rather than having
it out in the open for all to see.