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Hello,
Does anyone know the name of this girl?

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She partecipated in the film "Cicciolina Number One - Horsepower" but, as you can see from the link below, her name is not even in the actresses list.

http://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/c00075

The film has - for perhaps obvious reasons - not received much scrutiny.
I've taken a quick look at the edited version [all I have to hand at present]...

Your girl, I assume, is the one in the fairground bbgg at the start; the cafe
scene along with a slim blonde, Cicciolina and Denise Dior; and who appears
for a third time, later on in a brief bbgg in a shower.
The credits seem pretty sparse; Ilona Staller, and Susan Turner [who does not
seem to be present - the only brunette present is in the brief shower-scene
and is definitely not ST]. One cover I've seen also credits Lana Howard, who
I'm pretty sure is the girl sharing the fairground and cafe scenes.

In summary the females are:
Cicciolina [as Illona Staller];
Lana Howard [uncredited on screen, credited in one version's cover];
Denise Dior [uncredited, or miscredited as Susan Turner]
your girl [uncredited, or miscredited as Susan Turner];
unknown brunette [uncredited, or miscredited as Susan Turner].
I'll try and find my unexpurgated copy to see if it adds anything..... apart
from neighing noises : -)

I have seen and have ready at hand the uncut VHS rip (of average/poor quality).
I could get you other caps of the various performers if you wish.
I could also try to do a review of the movie (as horrible and plotless as it is), although
there are (in the uncut version) certain parts I really don't know how to handle (Dior interacting
with non-human species) because of forum rules.
Of the recognizable males in the movie are Christophe Clark and Roberto Malone. Cicciolina ios
really wasted, the movie does not seem to contain direct sound at all, badly shot
and edited. Cicciolina does a brief peeing scene and puts on a long vaudeville show of
some sort.
JJ, let me know what if anything you want me to contribute to this EGAFD listed title.

Len801 wrote:
> I have seen and have ready at hand the uncut VHS rip (of average/poor quality).
> I could get you other caps of the various performers if you wish.
Thanks for the offer, but I believe the cut version is better-quality than the
uncut rip. I expect we'll just add the other girls as XNKs at some future date
{I want to do some more research re this 'Susan Turner' and get some comparison-
caps of Lana Howard].


> I could also try to do a review of the movie (as horrible and plotless as it is)
I think we'd better stick to the existing elliptical reference : -)

I believe I have identified a third male. He is seeen early on in the movie
exiting in one of the amusement park rides with the female (in a red dress) the
poster has been trying to ID. He is referred by Cicciolina later in the movie as
a certain "Andrea".
I believe it is Andre Kay




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See if you agree.

I am rather surprised by the content of the movie, which was shot/released around 1986.
I don't mean the bestiality content, but the fact Cicciolina is seen parading several times
in the amusement park grounds with a number of her adoring "fans" (boys and girls
who are very young, some not older than 6-7-8 years old). Comments?
This after all was a film with explicit sex content, and normallly underage personas
(even if no sex is involved with them) are not to be present or clearly filmed.
I don't recall seeing this in Euro or even US movies of that period.
I don't know how Schicchi got away with it.

I'd already spotted AK : -)

Re C's Pied Piper act: if Italian parents can't stop their bambini following
pornstars around, I don't see how the authorities could ban them from being
filmed - in a public area - doing so.
In a way a pornista might be no worse a role-model than, say, a footballer
who is an arrogant, stupid, greedy, mendacious, unfaithful, ungrateful cheat -
i.e. most of them : -) Not that I sign up to the general idea of sports people
being expected to act as role-models in the first place....

The point I was trying to make in my last post was that I find it difficult to
watch those scenes with Cicciolina and those kids.
For one thing, what was Schicchi thinking of, filming little kids and clearly showing their faces
in an explicit porn movie (some scenes even actually being filmed in that
amusement park). Aren't (weren't) there laws in Italy that forbid such things?
Secondly how stupid was it for Cicciolina to go romping around in the
amusement park armed with magazines or flyers of herself surrounded by little kuids?
Those kids' parents may have been utterly stupid or clueless but Schicchi and Cicciolina knew better.

I didn't say I didn't find it distasteful - but I don't see what the powers
could have done about it. As to Schicchi and Staller - well, they always
seemed very much the 'any publicity...' types. And that schtick with Cicc.
always clutching a cuddly-toy I have always found deeply, deeply, creepy.

Don't forget that child-protection legislation was barely in its infancy
[no pun intended] back then... CC hadn't long stopped shooting kiddie-porn
and mainstream cinema was rife with 'Summer of 69'-type films featuring
mature women and alarmingly young-looking boys.... and let's not forget Jane
Baker's turn in 'Educatrice' : -))
Take comfort in the fact that such a contingency is no longer possible. Now
parents need only worry about real sexual predators at fairgrounds.

As bad as the US porn industry was even in the golden age, they did abide by
certain standards. Even if the characters in those movies were indcated as being
underage, I do not recall ever seeing little kids (up close, cearly viewable and recognizable)
even in street crowd scenes.
Kids were NOT to be shown in explicit porn movies, even if there was no nudity or sexual
play involved when those kids were present/filmed.

I have seen extremely few Euro movies produced in the 1970's and 1980's and
I do not recall seeing kids in them.

In mid 1986 the whole world learned that Traci Lords had been doing porn movies
while not yet 18. All her movies had to be withdrawn from circulation in the US.
Some European countries continued to distribute them.
Schicchi and Cicciolina would certainly been keenly aware of these repercussions.


I have no idea how the Italian authorities allowed the distribution of this movie way back
in 1986. No parent took action against its producers.
Today if you pick up an Italian magazine showing an adult/parent (celebrity) with an underage
child (their own), the kid's face is censored. Even news organizations like CNN
and others will not film or interview an underage person unless a parent has granted permission.
When an underage person is suspected of having committed a crime or victim of a crime,
in North America the media is forbidden from releasing and publishing their names/photos.

Irrespective of country I can recall no other examples of pre-teens in porn
films. Not many under-16s at all, AFAICT. Porno people are idiots, not insane...

The Lords debacle was idiocy - by the same logic kids using fake IDs should
cause the close-down of all 18+ cinemas and shops selling alcohol. She lied
about her age, so the authorities blamed the prods. because the authorities
hadn't legislated strictly enough. Makes perfect sense - to a lunatic. Any
fool could have foreseen the contingency and set the bar at 21 - then, the
liars who didn't get caught would likely still be over 18. In engineering
terms, you always build in a safety-margin.