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o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:30 pm
by joe king
according to this 'distance selling regulations' leaflet
you have the right to clear information
'Before you decide to buy, the seller must give you the following information: '
and 'An accurate description of the goods or services ' is the important one here as regards Televisionx and TAC subscriptions.
Their information is not accurate.
To complain to the local trading standards organisation go here:
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:02 pm
by Big Jim
Hi Joe,
As reluctant as I am to get involved in this discussion yet again (epsecially before I head out to the pub) could you please be kind enough to highlight the inaccuracies in the descriptions?
From what I can remember in the promos they say 'the action gets harder after encryption' which it does. - ITC rulings on the freeview are very strict (you can't even see pubes).
And something like 'see guys and girls fucking when this freeview ends'. - which you do see, very few shows are shot simulated anymore.
If it said on the freeview, 'we show actual penetration and close up oral shots' then you would every right to make a complaint.
As I get easily confused, could you please let me know which descriptions are blatant lies?
Cheers,
Big Jim
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:34 pm
by joe king
they don't have to be 'blatant' lies either - it says you have a right to accurate information
'NEW SERIES- BARELY 18
Fresh and juicy young girls get it on with themselves and some very close friends Don?t miss out as these gorgeous babes take it all the way with each other and the help of some very special toys. '
'take it all the way' - what is that supposed to mean ?
'How Hard Are the programmes?
Make no mistake, this is real full blown sex action. The Adult Channel shows the hardest adult action allowed on UK TV.'
That seems like a blatant lie - real full blown sex?
I would have to go through some of the freeview material on video I have on televisionx - suppose other forumites can give more accurate descriptions of tvx blurbs
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:48 pm
by Big Jim
Hello again Joe,
Take it all the way - techincally this could mean absolutely anyting, they could take it all the way to Newcastle and back. (ha, ha, I'm so funny...not) But I suppose what is meant is that there is real masturbation and real sex in the show. Obviously they can't show it to you in graphic detail, but the performers do go at it.
Real full blown sex - yet again, the performers are having real sex 95% of the time. And as there is oral, vaginal and anal sex going on, then I suppose that could be consider full blown.
The problem isn't about accuracy, it's about interpretation and perception. If anyone needs to know how strong the channels are all they have to do is a) look on this forum or b) ask their mates at work. It is that simple.
Anyways, I'm off to the pub. I might post again around midnight, but as we all know, drinking and posting don't mix.
Cheery bye.
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:10 pm
by WessexXXX.tv
Joe
On the page you gave a link to in your last post.......
......it clearly says......
'Make no mistake, this is real full blown sex action. The Adult Channel shows the hardest adult action allowed on UK TV.'
As Big Jim says....95% of the action is actually happening therefore can be classed as 'full blown sex' trouble is it can't be shown on British TV.
Instead of wasting time complaining to local trading standards authorities etc (which could have a reverse effect - forcing Brit. TV companies to show even softer material) why not use the time more constructively lobbying your local M.P/Parliament or whatever to get these ridiculous outdated laws changed!!
Chris
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:16 pm
by marcusallen
The Trading Standatrds are simply an extension of beaurocracy ( re sex material) used by Councils to justify their insignifivant lives.
--Bust a street trader(costing umpteen pounds to do so)for selling illicit perfume. Bust a more serious thing like today (see above) because the time is right - politically.
They are all a bunch of utter, total hypocritical wamkers whose only aim in life is to justify their miserable existencre so they can carry on being elected\ or keep their dept going with all the sinecures that involves.
They are all politicians which equATES to LIARS and HYPOCRITES.
Clip Joints have been around for YEARS-Why now and how come the publicity.
Also, ever tried getting a license for a Sex Shop in Westminster? I fucking live here and im in the biz, so I should know for Christs sake.
It has never been in "certain interests" to bust the Clip Joints" until now, and this is only a small percenytage of threm anyway.
Fucking Hypoctites/Politvians
Try walking the streets at night- malre or female, try getting a mini-cab, TRY BEING SAFE as you are entitled to be.
Where does the money (not)go then, where are all thr politicos?
Ask the fuckers these questions, youll get somew lovely answewrs.
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:43 pm
by Richard B
Marcus, your attitude will get us nowhere.
R18 has been achieved - Ben Dover now says that R18 is more explicit in some cases than is allowed in the US.
Even though R18 was the result of a successful court appeal, a Government that was adamantly opposed to adults seeing hardcore porn could have easily rushed through a law stopping it. I think Michael Howard would have done it without batting an eyelid.
R18 or no R18, the Government could have told customs to continue stopping imports of porn vids. They didn't. I had a particular example of this in May - I came back with 15 great, but cheap videos from Brussels.
I arrived back at Waterloo around 1 PM - Customs were out in force - and stopping single blokes. I was pulled to one side - if I had misunderstood the current position, I would have been in very serious trouble - I said what I had (all standard b/g) and the officer took the lot into a private room to check. I got them all back - the officer even asked an older superior if I could bring so many in - he said yes, I was entitled.
Let's not forget what an advance this is.
You may hate the politicians - but politics is the only way we get change - the politicians you loathe could stop R18 and the customs easement tomorrow if they wanted to, and maybe future politicians of a different party will try - but for the moment, let's pay tribute to the one time "laissez-faire" (let things go their own way) is a really good idea.
Marcus, rubbishing all politicians throws the baby out with the bathwater. In our little world, we've seen massive change for the better in the last few years - let's recognise it!
Re: o/t trading standards
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:51 pm
by Officer Dibble
"but politics is the only way we get change" - What about revolution?
Officer Dibble