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Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:05 pm
by The Toybox
Who's clever, and who's stupid?
A team of graduates?
A team of glamour girls including a Playboy model?
Or Rosie Bray, the BBC Wales producer who thinks there is a verb "to Vee" and has never heard of the word "versus"? :-p
PS - ten bonus points to anyone who can find pics of any of the girls with their bits out
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:12 am
by mp3
It depends if the question is about Eastenders and Corrie or real life situations.
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:57 pm
by Essex Lad
Or someone who thinks a comma is necessary between "clever" and "and"?
I really don't think the producer does think there is a verb to vee - it's a common enough abbreviation for versus.
As the BBC continuity announcer says, "And next on BBC1 Arsenal v Manchester United on Match of the Day."
PS It really isn't that difficult to find pics of Coralie and Thekla with their bits out..so perhaps only 5 points...
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:08 pm
by rgb
I think that comma is correct, actually. It's two interrogative clauses separated by a conjunction. Though, I could be wrong....
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:34 pm
by Essex Lad
Lol...And suddenly the level of debate on here has risen... who says this country is dumbing down?
According to Fowler's Modern English Usage: "Essentially, its role is to give detail to the structure of sentences, especially longer ones and to make their meaning clear."
It is a very short sentence and not at all ambiguous.
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:46 pm
by rgb
Essex Lad wrote:
According to Fowler's MODERN English Usage...
MODERN - that's the problem...dumbed down and lacking in grammatical rigour!
Clauses should be separated by commas. !grin!
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:51 pm
by The Toybox
Thanks, when I was getting my Honours degree in English Language and Literature (and from a real University too) I was told I could use the comma as I wished in order to phrase the sentence as desired - although I agree that dogmatic pre-war thinking tended to be that a comma is never necessary before "and".
A better class of debate though than the usual "whose husband is feeling poorly" drivel, and I'm sure they do in fact know best in Essex :-p
Now more importantly, has anybody found pictures of those girls' bits?
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:02 pm
by Essex Lad
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:03 pm
by Paul L
We have lots of pics on OnlyTease of three of the glamour models on this programme,
Cara Brett
Coralie
Thekla
Re: Clever V. Stupid
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:06 pm
by Essex Lad
Thekla nude