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Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:33 pm
by Matt P
I'm currently embroiled in a bit of a arguement with facebook over the unfair targeting of people involved in the adult industry.
The angle I'm taking is that facebook aren't acting in the insterests of user safety as I've seen some of the abuse some, particualry female models/performers, have had to put up with.
In order to make my case more effectively I'm reliant on infomation coming from those that have had content removed recently or been deleted from the site. I'm very intrested in those that have been able to repost on appeal or those that deleted a friend due to insults/abuse. I'm very intrested in Myspace users & other social networking users experiences as well.
The infomation I have on this is limited even though it seems a lot of adult stars/producers have been deleted recently or have had content removed.
Anything that is unfair & results in the ill treatment of others is worth making a fuss about & if I lose my FB account as a result of trying to fight against that then at least I want to have made the best arguement I could've.
My points are somewhat biased as I'm not offended by nudity & adore adult performers so I would like some info to help make a more objective arguement as how stars are treated on ther is grossly unfair.
If you can help them mail me directly
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:18 pm
by paul jones
FB T&C
"Any content that is considered sexually explicit, violent, malicious or otherwise offensive will be removed. "
They dont want adult.
And the key word is "considered", by them. And bear in mind that even if they were gung ho libertarians, they are governed by US law about community standards.
End of story.
It's their platform, their rules.
As to fighting them, they care about you about as much as I do when guys try and join as models with no pics.
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:40 pm
by Matt P
Yes they've quoted the terms to me however why I'm intrested in those that have had a successful appeal as a lot of it isn't adult. Material can be up for months & all it takes is a malicious complaint to remove it.
Not wanting Adult material is fair enough but then Facebook allow criminals to harass their victims & the operation of sick peadophile rings for example. Something is only done after sustained campaigns for removal.
What I'm arguing is FB user safety measures are so inept that they use adult performers/producers as a scape goat for their short commings.
Myspace has far more adult performers & is far safer as instead of targeting them it has a proper safety check. How many facebook horror stories are there compared to myspace?
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:50 pm
by Shay Hendrix
Just been deleted for a second time, possibly as a result of my chat on there with you about the above subject. Proof that fighting back doesn't work. I'm not being pessimistic, i'm being realistic.
The only pics i put up were as far as underwear, or if i was topless i'd photoshop a massive block over the area. Those pics in my mind were showing no more flesh than if i'd been in a bikini. They don't take down people's holiday snaps do they?
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:42 pm
by Matt P
Just because we may lose doesn't mean we shouldn't fight. Miss Hendrix I've just had a hint of how awesome as person you are & you deserve better. I really hope you didn't get deleted because of your response to me as that was confidential correspondence.
It's a very good point on holiday pictures I know of more than a few that have far more sexual conotations.
Ultimately I think FB will win but that's not an excuse not to fight. As the mantra goes "No matter how absurd at least my voice was heard".
Both you & Paul make vaild points & it's part of the reason I'm losing as it's always going to come down to terms & if you don't like them then leave.
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:36 pm
by SxciiSooky
There's also the fact that anyone can report a profile and so claim they were offended, thus giving facebook all they need to deem it neccessary to delete a profile - on the terms that someone was 'offended'
I have just had my second account on there deleted - and I'm not even a model (yet lol), and so none of my pics have been anywhere near 'offensive', so instead would indicate the likelihood that someone reported the account, as is likely the case with the rest of you.....the world can be full of spiteful people
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:49 am
by Matt P
That's what I'm fighting against.
Particulary female models/performers are easy targets as, no pun intended, they attract a lot of wankers who then complain because the model won't lower herself to their standard. Some people are unable to differentiate between the fantasy of porn & the reality of real life social interactions. It's this type of abusive & often dangerous behaviour leading up to malicious complaint that is ignored. Do FB really think a pic of a beautiful woman looking sexy is more offensive than someone abusing women? These people use the complaint process as their "get out of jail free card".
Not just exclusive to adult industry but as a whole the reporting proceedure aids the very people it's supposed to protect us from, it's "put up with me or I'll get you deleted" ethos.
A model gets deleted at the drop of a hat where as it took a petition of over 100,000 to have one of Baby P's killers removed that's one example.
Sorry to rant but this combines the ill treatment of people with the unfair targeting of people I adore. Good luck with the modelling/performing & know that at least I'm going fight your corner.
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:01 am
by planeterotica
Not exactly porn but i uploaded a short vid clip on Youtube of an interview i did with a girl at the 2006 London Naked bike ride, it stayed up for over three years and recieved more than 200,000 hits, allthough the girl was naked i shot her head and shoulders only so she could have been wearing clothes as far as viewers could see, in the interview she did talk about nudity but sex was never mentioned, anyway after all that time someone flagged it as being obscene and it was removed and Youtube sent me a warning that if i uploaded similar material my account would be closed, so it seems that executions are ok on Youtube but dont mention nudity and the mere mention of sex would probably get you banned for life !flush!
Re: Promoting yourself on social networking sites
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:08 am
by SpunkySam
Well i hate to sound like a broken record but Twitter does not ban porn stars i know a great deal that have been on there ages promoting there sites and updating on there daily lives with kerry louise being a prime example the only difficulties come with linked photo hosting sites like twit pic but there are adult alternatives that still put your pics through twitter updates.