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I have just been reading OEJ's post " Open warning from UKAP" plus all the replies.
I expect I am being ignorant with my lack of knowledge, but how do the models who do this type of shoot get on with their STI/HIV certs?.

Looking at the small trailers for some of the films on here, it appears that many of the guys taking part are ordinary members of the public, and I expect they don't have any certs. But could be wrong. Also condoms don't appear to be being used for oral.

Could it be that the girls go for a checkup the following day, or are they done towards the end of a girls current cert. when they would be going for a check up anyway
If not it seems to be another dangerous practice.

I've done these types of shoots before.

I've always gone for a throat swab the day after but some STI's can take 2 weeks to show up.

I only do BG/GG now, no longer do parties or anything else like it but I think it is something that needs to be monitored closely.

I'm lucky I haven't caught anything in nearly six years of being in the industry!

This is something I have spoken to other models about before. Even some of the bigger producers do gang bang or dogging type shoots where their mates or members of the public without certs are involved. Is the same true of models who do OWO and CIM as escorts? Is it not possibly another weak link in us keeping safe?

Ive deliberately avoided this thread and I can see it going where we've gone before on this where its already ben answered on this forum numerous times.

The adult industry involves risky sex and bukake parties are no more risky than a one on one try out in terms that the cert could be voided after just the first shoot.

This doesnt negate the reason to get your tests every 28 days if you are in the buisness of risky sex because its a good way to monitor if you do get an STD and easier to work out the who what and when in the event of a quarantine so it is more effective to deal with.

No record of your sexual health from month to month is the real disaster that will cause major panic in the event of an outbreak.

If as a model you pick up STD's on a semi regular basis rethink your career as you are obviously in the wrong crowd, as Terry pointed out with a fresh cert after the first sex with someone its worthless.
A cert don't protect you it just monitors your health so if you are unlucky enough to get a dose as a responsible person you avoid unprotected sex until you are clear, you hear of seedy clinics giving people tests who are on antibiotics & they know all the time it masks results but they carry on giving out certs regardless because of the money so the "no certs thing" is only the tip of the iceberg in a big list of plunders.
We have sex for a living & it is dangerous full stop...how we conduct ourselves e.g. certs, condoms is another thing, it is up to every individual to be responsible enough to check who we work with not the Producer, Model, sponsor but us & only us.

Hi Nikonman,

Yes you are totally right it does put us all at more risk....

if all certified performers always used protection for both penetration & oral and stuck to safe pop shots (boobs, stomach & feet) with non-certiifed people then we wouldn't have any problems with infections,
We only have all the problems we do because some girls & guys are doing non-certifed bareback/owo shoots or in their personal lifes and still working with the rest of us.

Doing it at the end of a cert does no good unless they make it their last job for 6 months as some infections can take this long after contact to show up on a test.
The earliest infections to show up take between 3 days to 2 weeks after contact with a 7 day average.