The future of porn

[Officer Dibble]

I'd just like to see some girls with real tits, natural fannys and no tats. Curvaceous girls with red pouting lips and hourglass figures. Girls who know how, and when, to apply make-up. Girls who know how, and when, to dress provocatively, showing imagination and flair. Girls who own some decent lingerie, Girls who act like girls and don't try to emulate young chaps. Oh, and I?d like to see people having real sex, like real people do, not empty, perfunctory, meaningless, 'Porno Land sex' - if you can call it sex. Alas, it now seems like I'm asking for the earth.

Yes, I reckon a straight type sex film would be like a breath of fresh air - 'Back t' basics' I say. Do people want gaping, gagging, arsehole type films? On the whole, no. Oh, I'm sure they're are a few odd types out there who are genuinely turned on by all that, but the bulk of people who take that kind of stuff home are doing so simply because it is being offered to them. Much like people take the latest Westlife or Pop-Tart single home. Not because they really want it or like it. They just feel that's what is expected of them, because that is what their peers are doing. They don't have the willpower, individuality or objectivity to decide what they, themselves, really like. So they take the easy option, adopt some ready made opinions, tastes and values. They then tell themselves it's all wonderful, and when challenged they exhibit all the uncritical, un-objective enthusiasm of the zealot. Till, of course, the next month when some new fad or trend takes it's place. Then it would be as if the previous fad had never existed.

"Then, why are so many gapping arsehole type films being produced?" I anticipate you saying. Well, beats me. I guess so long as some are still being sold it keeps the system and the loop going. People's lives and incomes become dependant. But as the novelty of the fad wears off their income starts to diminish, they don't have any dough or time to break free and try something else. It becomes the case that they have to peddle faster and faster along the same dismal track just to keep afloat. What's needed is a huge cultural jolt to shake the whole gapping arsehole-centric influence from the porno orbit ? a similar thing to what happened to society in the 60's with the counter culture, or late 70's with punk. But I don't see any cultural jolts on the horizon at the mo.



Officer D

[Pianaman]

Genuine eroticism as opposed to soulless porn.

I was watching that wonderful film "Desert Hearts" the other night. The lesbian lovemaking in that was far more erotic and more of a turn on than any porn I have seen. It has passion and tenderness and it involves you. More explicit does not equal more sexy. people either make that mistake or they think "eroticism" means some sort of high production value or gloss - it doesn't - it means "the art of sexual expression". And that can and should include humour and play because the best sex is playful too.

[sandie]

im currently shooting 3 films. toys r ass 2 and 3 and a one off called wifeswap.

those of u that have seen toys r ass 1 will know that i have tried to capture erotic yet real lesbian action. i like to think of it as a cross between andrew blake and british gonzo.
hopefully volumes 2 and 3 will bring this across more so than my first attempt. throwing in a hint of tanya hyde.

also wife swap - which is as the title implys a wifeswapping party. a new view on swinging - since that seems to be the style at the moment but not shot gonzo. shot with erotic ambient lighting with asthetically pleasing couples.

[rob_uk69]

is there to much porn availiable ?
are your favorites making to much porn?
when porn wasn,t easy to get hold of did it make you appreciate it more?
has the internet killed porn?

yes i know people have to make money out of porn because they put thier life and soul into the buisness but i for one would rather pay a the extra pounds for a quality film .
but what is a quality film?
what i think is a good film others think is crap ,all our tastes are different thats what makes us human
the answer? if i knew that i'd be a rich man

rob

[Pianaman]

"i have tried to capture erotic yet real lesbian action"

That sounds really encouraging. Personally I find Andrew Blakes work can be sexy (and the women are beautiful - as is the music) but too often he focuses more on the production values and "choreography" - it can still feel rather cold. For me what is really erotic is a combination of sensuality, eye contact, passion and it can be as subtle or as dirty as you feel, that doesn't matter, what matter's is that it's not just going through the motions.

One of the most erotic porn sequences I have seen is in HPG Coulisse by John B Root where HPG and Ovidie just fuck each other's brains out - it's as hard as you can get, fisting, pissing etc but the focus is on the relationship - there is play and humour and real feeling (and also intelligence) involved, not just choreography. On the other hand - last night watching the adult channel reminded me how much context is important. I've seen thousands of films where women fuck themselves or each other with toys. But to see 3 women doing that, even still in a fairly unexplicit manner, on the telly, where it's "forbidden" made it seem fresh and sexy as hell.

Boundaries are important in helping to make things erotic - if anything goes ultimately nothing means a hell of a lot - you overdose on "explicitness" but it constantly fails to satisfy because it's not reaching you as a human being.

[sandie]

i think this forum and recent topics have proven that internet porn is booming.
film producers are now taking there product to the net. maybe becasue they see there is money to be made from websites and streaming/VOD. maybe because there just isnt enough money to be made from retail alone anymore.



rob_uk69 wrote:

i for one would
> rather pay a the extra pounds for a quality film .
> but what is a quality film.

maybe so rob but feelings from alot of ur fellow forumites is porn is over priced anyway. they want cheap porn!

its hard to please everyone all of the time. i think the key lies in variety and diversity. not just 50 uk producers all filming the same girls in the same outfit in the same style.

[webmong]

I think you're right on the internet being the way to go. You can get your product on the net, it's own web address and if u have some technical ability, design it simply yourself for ?200. You can then sell it for?15, undercutting the shops. Or you sell it to the shops for ?4.
Self selling on the 'net has to be the way to go as shop mark ups are way too steep.

[eroticartist]

Sex is a serious business!