and now the squirming begins...

[ArchiPoet]

your remarks sounding anyway like a bad "real satire "
in the face of growing HIV infection rates in East & SouthEastEurope
systematically neglected by the governments there.

virologists et al. tell us every day
a HIV import to Western + Middle Europe is once more taking place today
from East & SouthEastEurope, Asia & Africa.
it will need some years the consequences will be visible for everybody.
and there will be more crying & whining than today ...

to think there is a safe haven: "mousetrap thinking"

AP

[mark cremona]

you are right, there is no such thing as a safe haven, but im not going to get defensive about it.

i guess the point i was trying to make was that the Adult industry in Europe tends to be more "contained" if thats the right word, for example there is no equivilent of Rio de janerio in Europe, where Porn Actors from Prague or Warsaw go to perform then return to their homeland to spread virus's etc.

its true some of them may work as prostitutes in their own country and its possible that in time we may face an outbreak of our own here, but the social and political structure of Europe will make, I think, a universal outbreak here a little more difficult, but that is no guarantee (ok ok Im being defensive here) and Im only talking about the Adult Industry here not the General Population of any given Country.

if a Czech or Polish Porn actor contracts the virus on monday, we are unlikely to see moritoriums of employement amongst Porn actors in London or Lublijana by Friday, if one country goes "positive" we just move to the next.

another valid point is that the testing regimes in some European countries do leave something to be desired, but PL CZ and Romania, have in place some of the strictest HIV testing I have ever come across, before I am able to MARRY my Romanian girlfriend in Romania, I must take a HIV test before the wedding and this test is ONLY VALID for 48 hours before our wedding, I only found out about this a week ago when I applied to the Romanian embassy in London for the paperwork to proceed with the wedding.
So these countries are waking up quickly to the dangers of Ignorance in the populace with regard to HIV.

[ArchiPoet]

mark cremona wrote:
> you are right, there is no such thing as a safe haven, but im
> not going to get defensive about it.
> i guess the point i was trying to make was that the Adult
> industry in Europe tends to be more "contained" if thats the
> right word, for example there is no equivilent of Rio de
> janerio in Europe, where Porn Actors from Prague or Warsaw go
> to perform then return to their homeland to spread virus's etc.
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the complete thing is difficult ... example: dozens of Brazilian performers especially transsexuals touring through Europe?s sex capitals doing escort .. or simply prostitution .. and making movies ( especially Italy). it is only a question of time something will occur. but it will be swept under the carpet because there is not even a lousy organisation like AIM in Europe. there are still only decisions by such or such individuals.


>
> another valid point is that the testing regimes in some
> European countries do leave something to be desired, but PL CZ
> and Romania, have in place some of the strictest HIV testing I
> have ever come across, before I am able to MARRY my Romanian
> girlfriend in Romania, I must take a HIV test before the
> wedding and this test is ONLY VALID for 48 hours before our
> wedding, I only found out about this a week ago when I applied
> to the Romanian embassy in London for the paperwork to proceed
> with the wedding.
> So these countries are waking up quickly to the dangers of
> Ignorance in the populace with regard to HIV.
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There could be another interpretion too. YOU ( a citizen of a rather well developed country ) have to make a HIV test for a rather underdeveloped country with a desastrous health system and high HIV rates.
i am finding that very strange.
Not only at my opinion such behaviour ( similar in Russia etc.) is more a sign of XENOPHOBY than something other and a indication for a ridiculous approach to the HIV problem.

Romania like Russia officially believes HIV is an import pestilence
which will automatically vanish if they are controlling all "visitors".
they have understood nothing.

greetings AP

[mark cremona]

xenophoby, I never thought of that, I had imagined that maybe it was Paranoia, you know, with some Governments thinking that its foreigners from more well developed countries bringing in HIV and a failure to realise that there is just as much danger from within (intravenous drug users and Homosexual buggery?) much like the problem in South Africa where they seem to be unable to acknowledge the scope of the problem.

Yes the AIM thing in Europe, maybe we need to see something like that here. but I fear the chances of that would be small, and having one organisation to oversee such a scheme would be difficult to implement Europe wide.

thanks for the warning regarding the travelling band of Brazillian transexuals by the way, i shall be sure to look out for them when Im in Hungary shooting next month.

[Ben Dover]

Mark you old fucker! Good to hear from you. All the best for the future. Keep in touch.

[ArchiPoet]

xenophoby & paranoia are perhaps two sides of the same medal.

i am not very optimistic about the general health situation
in all countries east of Oder/Odra and of the Balcans for the future.

if you need some black or brown flesh in Budapest
ask for cuban women ( rest of immigration workers in former comm. Hungary).



i wish you all the best for your plans.

AP

[mark cremona]

good day to you Mr Ben Dover "old fucker" indeed!!! I do believe im ever so slightly younger than you ......Hot Rod!!!

Im gonna come by sometime, I know I've been threatening too, but its finding the bloody time, and when I drive over the fucking Customs really give me a hard time at the Eurotunnel terminal.

I got arrested last time under the "prevention of terrorism" act, and held for 2 hours while they checked my passport and fingerprints.

the only explanation I got was "a darkie with an english passport driving a dutch registered vehicle filled up with pornographic video tapes....well what would you do?" explained a HM Customs and Excise Gentleman.

think im gonna fly next time.