shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
Can someone clarify what the BBFC's attitude to alfresco sex is please? Got a shoot on Monday in a top-floor flat in London with a nice balcony and roof terrace which is pretty well hidden away from neighbours & the street. I know it's not going to pose any problems for Television X (who've commissioned it) but what about an R18 hardcore version? For some reason I'm sure they cut this kind of stuff, 'in breach of criminal law' and all that. But what if it's private property?
Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
Why not ask the BBFC and get it from the horses mouth they are very helpful people !!
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Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
But not answering their phones at 7.30 in the evening...
Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
Night time shoot is it then ???
Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
Hi there,
My understanding is that public sexual activity "offends common decency", i.e. if there's a chance that an old granny, some young kid, a MP or a member of OFCOM might stumble upon the nefarious doings then you're committing a criminal offence and, as such, the BBFC will not pass it.
Filming sexual activity on a top-floor balcony, where no-one could overlook and there's no chance of next door's kids clambering up to take a peek, would probably be okay. However, filming in the middle of Hyde Park (or, indeed, in a black cab stopped at traffic lights) would breach BBFC guidelines.
Which means that the "Extreme Public Piss" series of DVDs are unlikely to get a legal release in this country (for so many reasons)
Cheers,
Mikey
My understanding is that public sexual activity "offends common decency", i.e. if there's a chance that an old granny, some young kid, a MP or a member of OFCOM might stumble upon the nefarious doings then you're committing a criminal offence and, as such, the BBFC will not pass it.
Filming sexual activity on a top-floor balcony, where no-one could overlook and there's no chance of next door's kids clambering up to take a peek, would probably be okay. However, filming in the middle of Hyde Park (or, indeed, in a black cab stopped at traffic lights) would breach BBFC guidelines.
Which means that the "Extreme Public Piss" series of DVDs are unlikely to get a legal release in this country (for so many reasons)
Cheers,
Mikey
Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
I think a problem if exists if the location could be a viewed by an innocent passer-by whether the location is private property or not.
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Yeah, that makes some kind of irritating sense, thanks guys. I did a couple of brazen shoots with Nadia -- one on a roof and one very much in the window of a top-floor bedroom that all of Crouch End could have seen if they'd looked up. TVX didn't blink an eye. So much for across-the-board, joined-up thinking.
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Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
But isn't it also true - as I understand it - that it is only where the scene was filmed in Britain than the BBFC worry about the "in view of the public" thing (as it relates specifically to upholding UK decency laws). You can film twenty people shagging in the middle of the Champys Elysee and get a UK R18 release no problem, but film a scene on the 20th floor of a Streatham tower block without remembering to draw the curtains and you're in a world of hurt. If this is the case why not make it look like the location you're filming in is actually in France rather than Britain. Dub on some accordion music, leave a packet of Gauloise on the bedside cabinet and get a bloke on a bicycle with a string of onions round his neck to walk past the window at the start and you'll be fine.
Re: shooting outside -- R18 BBFC
I didn't know about their attitude to passers-by. Last series for TVX I did, that would have ruled out three of the four shows. That's ridiculous, I love doing that stuff.
It would strike me that's another difficulty that hardcore distributors and retailers could have if our embryonic system of DVD and video distribution remains in a stranglehold and Ofcom eventually allows hardcore on telly. In the report Ofcom published last week they talk of 'R18 and R18 standard material' which suggests that when this all happens TV broadcasts of commissioned hardcore won't necessarily be classified like on DVD and video and that Ofcom will prefer the stations to carry on regulating themselves (if for no other reason than Ofcom won't want to do itself out of its job of regulating the self-regulators). And, bottom line, they won't be able to get TVX to suddenly tell me to stop shooting McKenzie Lee standing starkers in a shop window in Walthamstow because the standard's already been set, irrespective of the fact it was a softcore shoot. The nudity and fucking were still real and just as potentially "offensive to common decency" as if it had been hardcore.
It would strike me that's another difficulty that hardcore distributors and retailers could have if our embryonic system of DVD and video distribution remains in a stranglehold and Ofcom eventually allows hardcore on telly. In the report Ofcom published last week they talk of 'R18 and R18 standard material' which suggests that when this all happens TV broadcasts of commissioned hardcore won't necessarily be classified like on DVD and video and that Ofcom will prefer the stations to carry on regulating themselves (if for no other reason than Ofcom won't want to do itself out of its job of regulating the self-regulators). And, bottom line, they won't be able to get TVX to suddenly tell me to stop shooting McKenzie Lee standing starkers in a shop window in Walthamstow because the standard's already been set, irrespective of the fact it was a softcore shoot. The nudity and fucking were still real and just as potentially "offensive to common decency" as if it had been hardcore.