Buying video's / current law

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Genie
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Buying video's / current law

Post by Genie »

This topic has probably been covered, but just want to be sure I am clear...

First off, if I buy a video from the states, should I assume it's not PAL?

I have looked at the relevant sections of a couple of dealers, but this is not clear.

If the video is not PAL (I am considering titles which are hard to find, so conversion and all that is worthwhile)...my video plays some non-PAL video's, I think, does this mean when I get a decent DVD recorder I could transfer it successfully?

I do have a multi region DVD player.

As for buying from abroad, although it seems there is a risk of customs confiscation, I have just checked the R18 FAQ...I don't think anal is still illegal in the UK is it? Things can't still be that draconian...

I am not planning to buy ClubSeventeen or fisting stuff from abroad, my main priority in overseas purchases is a couple of films including Brit girls doing anal, so hopefully my purchases should be safe if I proceed...

One more thing, has the govt stated what their anti porn stance hopes to achieve? If they were strongly pro-marriage and church weddings (neither are bad things of course), it would make a little sense...aside from possibly helping give men 'ideas' about sexual possibilities / situations I can't see the real harm...the other change in society, more teenage pregnancies...I hardly think they can entirely blame that on porn. There are many factors, as we all know, that bring about such changes in society...

Anyway, I've waffled enough...
qwerty
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Post by qwerty »

If you buy a video from America it won't be PAL,it will be NTSC.

There should be no problems transfering it to DVD via a DVD recorder.

Anal sex isn't illegal so I doubt that your tapes will be siezed,but it's possible that you might have to pay import duty.

Anything over ?18 is liable for tax,which is around 20% of the total order value.

alec
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Post by alec »

qwerty wrote:

> If you buy a video from America it won't be PAL,it will be
> NTSC.
>
> There should be no problems transfering it to DVD via a DVD
> recorder.
>

Sorry, but yes there almost certainly will be.

Although most VCRs will play NTSC tapes, they convert NTSC to pseudo PAL output, and this is unrecordable. To put NTSC tapes onto DVD-R or +R you will need either a multi-system VCR which will convert the output to PAL as it plays them, or a DVD Recorder which can be switched over to make NTSC DVD-Rs or +Rs, but along with this you will need an NTSC (i.e. American) VCR which outputs a true NTSC signal to the DVD Recorder.

However, there may be a combi VCR / DVD Recorder which sets both the tape and the DVD to NTSC, but since I've never used one, I can't confirm this from personal experience. However, I can confirm the previous paragraph from personal experience.
pagangod_uk
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Post by pagangod_uk »

All the technical info stated by Alec is bang on the money, however I do have a couple of questions...

You mention the fact that you have a Multi-Region DVD player, so what's the point of going through all the hassle of doing a PAL to NTSC standards conversion?

Why bother buying Videos from America when DVD's are at VERY competative prices on most of the US DVD websites?

The US prices are a LOT cheaper than here in good old rip-off Britain.

Average price of a British adult DVD is about 25 quid, as opposed to the US where the average adult DVD price is about $25 dollars for a NEW title - older titles are quite often discounted (about $13.99 on average).

The last time I checked, the exchange rate was still pretty favourable to we Brits - here's an example:

24.99 USD United States Dollars = 13.0940 GBP United Kingdom Pounds.

Yeah, that's right, 13 quid for your average adult DVD.

Something worth noting is the fact that less and less US stockists carry VHS tapes - it's fast becoming extinct and therefore it's very likely that something you may want to order might NOT be available on VHS video.

Lata.

qwerty
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Post by qwerty »

I stand corrected Alec !
alec
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Post by alec »

pagangod_uk wrote:

> All the technical info stated by Alec is bang on the money,
> however I do have a couple of questions...

Apologies. This was probably not directed at me, but I can think of some of the answers.

>
> You mention the fact that you have a Multi-Region DVD player,
> so what's the point of going through all the hassle of doing a
> PAL to NTSC standards conversion?

Multi Region is nothing to do with NTSC v. PAL. (BTW 99.99% of American porn DVDs are region-free; so a Multi-Region DVD player is not necessary.)

>
> Why bother buying Videos from America when DVD's are at VERY
> competative prices on most of the US DVD websites?

Some titles are not yet available on DVD and someone may already have NTSC tapes from a while back and may not want to go to the expense of buying the DVD.

Plus there is at least one case of a DVD where one scene plays twice and another is missing where the NTSC tape is the only way of getting the scene - the Caballero title Glitter.

All the comments about the price of DVDs in the States are perfectly correct. Caballero DVDs sell for 6.95 US dollars at Five-Star DVD, to give an even cheaper example. Perhaps that's why Caballero can't be bothered to check them before release.
pagangod_uk
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Post by pagangod_uk »

Points all taken Alec!

As for the difference between Multi-Region and NTSC - yup, know that, I was just trying to cut to the chase for Genie's sake - please forgive my technical omissions!

Did forget that ALMOST every porn DVD in the world is region-free though!!

But about the entire converting NTSC tapes to PAL format, this can be a VERY expensive proposition...

TV Standards converters are pricey pieces of kit - generally because they're only generally used in Broadcast TV (where I originally hail from) and therefore built to a very high-end technical specification - thus the high-end prices.

A couple of years back I looked into Standards Converters on the behalf of a friend for non porn-related reasons(!) and the quotes I got were anything from 1k to 30k!!

But I don't why we're bothering with all this advice - since Genie hasn't bothered to reply anyway...!

Lata.
Deuce Bigolo
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Post by Deuce Bigolo »

Always assume their NTSC unless stated otherwise

Some US Niche Sites do offer conversion to Pal for another USD5-00
but that will be easily spotted

Beware of US sites like excaliburfilms.com who don't deliver Videos overseas anymore

You might find this DVD price search engine useful


This site might help with your video to dvd question if video is the only option


cheers
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alec
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Post by alec »

I realised you'd know about NTSC/PAL v region code, but you'd be surprised how many people confuse the two on this forum; so it bore repeating.

As for covnersion, the Samsung Multisystem 5000W VCR is pretty good for about ?350, as it converts digitally. Of course all depends on the quality of the original tape and NTSC tapes can be very variable in quality, some very good and some pretty terrible. And SECAM colours tend to be on the'hot' side when converted. However, going the other way - from an NTSC DVD into the Samsung VCR and converting to PAL, I've found it very good. Better than what you sometimes see on satellite TV from an NTSC source for example.

There's a Panasonic machine for about ?1k I believe.

DVD players that output true PAL from NTSC DVDs also do a very good job of converting.

BTW the need to convert comes from the need to take vidcaps for ID shots of models for this site and egafd and I prefer to do it from tape as this has better control in fast forward.
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