Donna with Max Hardcore

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woodgnome

Re: Donna with Max Hardcore

Post by woodgnome »

you're right about rebekah having her head screwed on but how did you know i'd mention her? ;-)

a common argument used against max hardcore is that his material appeals to paedophiles and on those grounds should be banned. the reality is, paedophiles are interested in children, not adults dressed as children and, sad to say, there's plenty of the real mccoy out there to meet their requirements.

freedoms are hard won but easily lost. if, even with the best intentions, you find yourself in the same camp as those who would outlaw porn completely, you could find yourself on a slippery slope.

sex between adults and children is illegal and that's that. if you make a film of it or buy it you, know you're breaking the law. sex between two adults is legal (thank god!) and it seems to me, that should be that too.

if you start to try and make distinctions with regard to this type of scenario, or that sort of role playing, opponents of pornography will inevitably try and use the law in an ever more sweeping manner against all forms of expression.

if you don't like max hardcore or rob black, the best thing to do is ignore it. after all, that's what we say to someone when they start banging on about how morally offensive they find ben dover et al - "no one's forcing you to watch it!".
Darren

Re:Max Hardcore

Post by Darren »

As much as the concensus is against Max, I would have to agree with Woodgnome. It's a two way street and he's doing stuff legally and it is the choice of those who watch it!
Having said that, he has the subtlety of a school yard yob. It's not good for porn and it's not good for the girls who do it.
I am just giving an opinion. It's up to the BBFC (or the American governing body) to see if it is classed as acceptable, or degrading.
We can only hope the likes of Max have a change of heart and decide that they've gone as far as they can take it.
Rimbaud

Re:Max Hardcore

Post by Rimbaud »

agree, he and Siffredi are the pariahs of porn.
Rimbaud

Re: Donna with Max Hardcore

Post by Rimbaud »

For my part, I just hate the c*nt, and that's my right. I'm not trying to ban him.
Matt

Re: Donna with Max Hardcore

Post by Matt »

You're right, yes I have seen Max Hardcore material. I've also exchanged more then one email with the guy and spoken with several more from various parts of the industry when the C4 documentary broke.

I understand the point you're making about opinions, and it's a great point - don't have them unless you've made the effort to find out the facts and unearth the truth. That's why I have this one, cos I have done.

Mt post wasn't meant to get at you specifically - something I should have made clearer so sorry mate. I do feel that the 'each to his own' argument as to come to a natural end when it involves blatant cruelty to other people however. As is, at the very least, role-played in MH stuff.

As for the Brass Eye reference, I'm afriad you're way off the mark here. Even if it was supposed to be an ironic twist on porn (and it wasn't) it was inappropriate and disturbing as part of what wants to be a H/C sex tape. And the comment about no-one being surprised by it is just ridiculous. Shall we say the same about rapists and child molesters? We might know what we do so shall we turn a blind eye to them too because it "comes as no surprise?"


Matt.
David J

Re: Donna with Max Hardcore

Post by David J »

My point about 'no-one could be surprised' was that no-one with experience and contacts in the porn business could be surprised that MH does throat-fucking (or whatever you want to call it), because it is what he always does! Which is why the Channel 4 programme looks more and more like a set-up.

To repeat, I am not a fan of Max Hardcore. I've seen one tape and I wouldn't mind seeing a few more, but I don't think he will ever be top of my want-list.

Based on what I have actually seen, and not what I have read about him, his 'performance' is not as brutal or abusive as I had expected. Some of the scenes on the tape were really quite good, especially the opening scene with Jade Marcella and Cloey Adams, who apparently work with him regularly. The thing that surprised me most was that he has a sense of humour: a lot of the time he is obviously sending himself up.
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