I've always felt the models should get a royalty percentage on each wank performed over their pictures. I am still knocking one out to Debee Ashby pics from the late 80's. If she'dve been on royalties she would be a millionairess by now.
However, I am unsure how this royalty could be verified and calculated.
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Well said. The practise is rapidly diminishing the value of this otherwise excellent resource.
I wanted to look up what R18 films a particular girl has done - using the name that most other sites refer to her as. But that name isn't on here (maybe it's her real name) and the pic has gone. To find her, I had to go to other sites to get a list of other films she's been in, and cross-reference to here.
It's a shame, but her pic and name is on a myriad of other sites. Removing them from here has done no more than to make this site less useful.
I wanted to look up what R18 films a particular girl has done - using the name that most other sites refer to her as. But that name isn't on here (maybe it's her real name) and the pic has gone. To find her, I had to go to other sites to get a list of other films she's been in, and cross-reference to here.
It's a shame, but her pic and name is on a myriad of other sites. Removing them from here has done no more than to make this site less useful.
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Maybe if there weren't so many different aliases for models this would be less of a problem...the same thing makes tracking down all of the magazine appearances made by models difficult unless you have someone who's prepared to come up with a database like this, and having a pic of 'em is, let's face it, the best way of having a chance of ID'ing them! However, if a film has a model billed by one name and a another film decides to call them something different, how (if you happen to a be a fan of this particular model) are you supposed to locate all of their appearances without a resource like this! Especially if they're one of the not-quite-so high profile girls...after all, even someone like (for example) Theresa May was known as Ella through all her Fiona Cooper appearances!
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Judging by your 80srule Yahoo group Hattertim, you're doing one of the best archiving jobs around 
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IMO, your level of dismissiveness & aggression is tad unneccessary Sandie.
As most models work prior to having long-term relationships & children, I think an attitude of "...that's my problem" is near-sighted. You make signing a MR like a criminal-record that one forever has to be answerable for. It takes one hell of a strong teenager to face his mates when they taunt him/her about seeing his mum on a DVD/mag with her legs gaping & a cock in her mouth at the local corner-shop.
The majority of models & content featured on this site is from the pre-web era. When models signed MRs back then, they were aware that a magazine would have a limited shelf-life & that videos were hard to come by. Things have changed so much that perhaps a little more consideration should be given to to the changing forms of media should be given.
As most models work prior to having long-term relationships & children, I think an attitude of "...that's my problem" is near-sighted. You make signing a MR like a criminal-record that one forever has to be answerable for. It takes one hell of a strong teenager to face his mates when they taunt him/her about seeing his mum on a DVD/mag with her legs gaping & a cock in her mouth at the local corner-shop.
The majority of models & content featured on this site is from the pre-web era. When models signed MRs back then, they were aware that a magazine would have a limited shelf-life & that videos were hard to come by. Things have changed so much that perhaps a little more consideration should be given to to the changing forms of media should be given.
JamesR
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sorry for the late entry. an interesting thread...
as someone probably never once said, "you can please some of the punters some of the time...".
when your talking about a site as large and as busy as bgafd, which touches the lives of so many people (cue string section) you receive all manner of requests, many of which are reasonable and more than a few of which are not. in the case of model names and pictures, other than in the most extreme circumstances we do not remove entire model entries but, rather, seek to negotiate an outcome that accommodates both the models concerns and our own right to compile information which is in the public domain.
having said that, what would you do if you received an email from a young asian girl begging to be removed from the database (as has happened) because she genuinely feared for her life if her brothers were to come across her entry? maybe we're just a bunch of softies but shrugging our shoulders and telling her she should have thought of that before dropping her knickers on camera is not an adequate response. a more commonplace example: a model's presence on bgafd becomes known to her unsuspecting family or workplace. it's all very well saying that she should have anticipated such a situation before embarking on a career in porn but you have to make some allowance for human frailty and the peculiar circumstances that people contrive to get themselves in. besides which, taking any other approach would make us feel a little less human.
yes, we explain until we're blue in the face that removing images from bgafd won't stop much 'worse' from being found all over the net for years to come - it's frustrating but the web is still a relatively new phenomena and not everyone is savvy as to it's intrinsic nature (to put it mildly) - but the fact remains, we are and probably always will be the first port of call for any model wishing to erase their past because nine times out of ten bgafd will rank top in any search on their name.
it's also true to say that not every approach we receive is verifiably honourable but given the facts at our disposal we make the best call we can. being human beings as well as moderators (contrary to rumour the two are not mutually exclusive) it's possible we get it wrong on occasion and someone successfully misleads us as to who they really are and their motives for wanting a particular entry to be altered or removed but if it has happened, it would be a rare instance. in all we are only talking about 50 odd entries whose pictures have been remove from a total of 2,184 entries and counting.
as for comparisons between ourselves and www.iafd.com... iafd is without doubt an indispensable resource and will continue to be so despite the recent, sad loss of peter van aarle (compiler of the iafd database). however, the meticulous, not to say painstaking, cross-referencing of model aliases and alternative titles which characterises the bgafd database is surely testament enough to the diligence and scholarship which alec brings to the subject. indeed, without it this site would be but a pale shadow of itself...
anyway, we sincerely appreciate the input of everyone who posts constructive comments on our forums, whether they be about bgafd or (gasp!) women of the opposite gender. for our part, we will continue to develop bgafd in ways we hope render it an ever more useful resource for people whose first thoughts upon hearing the name 'teresa may' are not of the conservative party.
as someone probably never once said, "you can please some of the punters some of the time...".
when your talking about a site as large and as busy as bgafd, which touches the lives of so many people (cue string section) you receive all manner of requests, many of which are reasonable and more than a few of which are not. in the case of model names and pictures, other than in the most extreme circumstances we do not remove entire model entries but, rather, seek to negotiate an outcome that accommodates both the models concerns and our own right to compile information which is in the public domain.
having said that, what would you do if you received an email from a young asian girl begging to be removed from the database (as has happened) because she genuinely feared for her life if her brothers were to come across her entry? maybe we're just a bunch of softies but shrugging our shoulders and telling her she should have thought of that before dropping her knickers on camera is not an adequate response. a more commonplace example: a model's presence on bgafd becomes known to her unsuspecting family or workplace. it's all very well saying that she should have anticipated such a situation before embarking on a career in porn but you have to make some allowance for human frailty and the peculiar circumstances that people contrive to get themselves in. besides which, taking any other approach would make us feel a little less human.
yes, we explain until we're blue in the face that removing images from bgafd won't stop much 'worse' from being found all over the net for years to come - it's frustrating but the web is still a relatively new phenomena and not everyone is savvy as to it's intrinsic nature (to put it mildly) - but the fact remains, we are and probably always will be the first port of call for any model wishing to erase their past because nine times out of ten bgafd will rank top in any search on their name.
it's also true to say that not every approach we receive is verifiably honourable but given the facts at our disposal we make the best call we can. being human beings as well as moderators (contrary to rumour the two are not mutually exclusive) it's possible we get it wrong on occasion and someone successfully misleads us as to who they really are and their motives for wanting a particular entry to be altered or removed but if it has happened, it would be a rare instance. in all we are only talking about 50 odd entries whose pictures have been remove from a total of 2,184 entries and counting.
as for comparisons between ourselves and www.iafd.com... iafd is without doubt an indispensable resource and will continue to be so despite the recent, sad loss of peter van aarle (compiler of the iafd database). however, the meticulous, not to say painstaking, cross-referencing of model aliases and alternative titles which characterises the bgafd database is surely testament enough to the diligence and scholarship which alec brings to the subject. indeed, without it this site would be but a pale shadow of itself...
anyway, we sincerely appreciate the input of everyone who posts constructive comments on our forums, whether they be about bgafd or (gasp!) women of the opposite gender. for our part, we will continue to develop bgafd in ways we hope render it an ever more useful resource for people whose first thoughts upon hearing the name 'teresa may' are not of the conservative party.
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Just a couple of comments...
If a model's presence on the database "becomes known to her unsuspecting family or workplace", then the damage is already done? Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, I would have thought.
Secondly, and shamefully, "she genuinely feared for her life if her brothers were to come across her entry?" awoke the Frankie Howerd in me. Titter? I surely did.
If a model's presence on the database "becomes known to her unsuspecting family or workplace", then the damage is already done? Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, I would have thought.
Secondly, and shamefully, "she genuinely feared for her life if her brothers were to come across her entry?" awoke the Frankie Howerd in me. Titter? I surely did.