OK we are not allowed to discuss the fact that "alledgidly" some girls on here escort. Escorting meaning the payment for time only so no problems on the legal side.
However what really pisses me off is that we cant actually discuss it with regard to why the girls have suddenly stopped doing work (video work) because they only get, only???, ?300-?800 per day doing hardcore where as they get ?300 per hour escorting.
I think this is a very valid topic with regard to their film career.
I intend on listing all girls who escort, plus rates on www.awegasm.com and if you need video proof I am going to video it and put it on a web site. OK you will have to watch my arse going up and down but atleast you will see the girls we talk about who never do hardcore doing it!!!
Escorts and the FAQ
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jj
Re: Escorts and moral relativism
True, but it raises a point I've been mulling over for a while.......adult movie actresses are basically paid to have sex with a (complete or relative) stranger.
So, in what way are they/do they perceive themselves to be different from girls who offer 'escort' services?
I'm not making any point here, just curious, that's all.
So, in what way are they/do they perceive themselves to be different from girls who offer 'escort' services?
I'm not making any point here, just curious, that's all.
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alec
Re: Escorts and the FAQ
Krome wrote:
>
> OK we are not allowed to discuss the fact that "alledgidly"
> some girls on here escort. Escorting meaning the payment for
> time only so no problems on the legal side.
>
> However what really pisses me off is that we cant actually
> discuss it with regard to why the girls have suddenly stopped
> doing work (video work) because they only get, only???,
> ?300-?800 per day doing hardcore where as they get ?300 per
> hour escorting.
>
> I think this is a very valid topic with regard to their film
> career.
But you can discuss it in general terms. Indeed it has been discussed before in such terms, albeit briefly. But there seems little to discuss beyond what you just said, apart from mentioning, as I believe Marcus Allen did, that one reason was that escorting was less public than appearing in a video. Which is one of the reasons that naming names is not allowed.
>
> OK we are not allowed to discuss the fact that "alledgidly"
> some girls on here escort. Escorting meaning the payment for
> time only so no problems on the legal side.
>
> However what really pisses me off is that we cant actually
> discuss it with regard to why the girls have suddenly stopped
> doing work (video work) because they only get, only???,
> ?300-?800 per day doing hardcore where as they get ?300 per
> hour escorting.
>
> I think this is a very valid topic with regard to their film
> career.
But you can discuss it in general terms. Indeed it has been discussed before in such terms, albeit briefly. But there seems little to discuss beyond what you just said, apart from mentioning, as I believe Marcus Allen did, that one reason was that escorting was less public than appearing in a video. Which is one of the reasons that naming names is not allowed.
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Kris
Re: Escorts and moral relativism
surely think the comment regarding the difference is enormous!
i'm directly involved in the so called main line film industry where sex does take place during a take. The call for a closed set is a precursor for saying that for 'arts sake' realism dictates only the absolutely vital team can be present. (really that two well known stars will get so close to penetration that it is a condition of the players in the scene)
you would not believe how often two big stars will fail to notice that we've stopped filming. Also the number of times that bedclothes or props have to have bodily fluids removed after a scene after a strong scene is legion.
are they prostitutes and where do you draw the line? does penetration have to occur or is it touching or oral sex? Bill Clinton didnt have sex or did he?
If a working girl gives a guy a handjob or where a guy gets off by touching only is this prostitution? if it is then i could name dozens of household names that could havebeen involved in prostitution by the terms that where mentioned and on film!
when does a sex film become a erotic main stream film? is the script, the budget, the fact that it contains known actors or that its made in a large studio?
I suggest it more based on the cutting and the cert its given. So how do you justify the comment because some very major films have to have extensive cutting of the sex scenes to allow them not to be classified as R18!
even the jackasses that make the law acknowledge that there is a very obvious difference since neither myself or any member of any film crew have yet been prosecuted for adding and abetting an act of prostitution. neither has any mainstream producer been charged with living off immoral earnings.
i'm directly involved in the so called main line film industry where sex does take place during a take. The call for a closed set is a precursor for saying that for 'arts sake' realism dictates only the absolutely vital team can be present. (really that two well known stars will get so close to penetration that it is a condition of the players in the scene)
you would not believe how often two big stars will fail to notice that we've stopped filming. Also the number of times that bedclothes or props have to have bodily fluids removed after a scene after a strong scene is legion.
are they prostitutes and where do you draw the line? does penetration have to occur or is it touching or oral sex? Bill Clinton didnt have sex or did he?
If a working girl gives a guy a handjob or where a guy gets off by touching only is this prostitution? if it is then i could name dozens of household names that could havebeen involved in prostitution by the terms that where mentioned and on film!
when does a sex film become a erotic main stream film? is the script, the budget, the fact that it contains known actors or that its made in a large studio?
I suggest it more based on the cutting and the cert its given. So how do you justify the comment because some very major films have to have extensive cutting of the sex scenes to allow them not to be classified as R18!
even the jackasses that make the law acknowledge that there is a very obvious difference since neither myself or any member of any film crew have yet been prosecuted for adding and abetting an act of prostitution. neither has any mainstream producer been charged with living off immoral earnings.
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Phil McC
Re: Escorts and the FAQ
I tend to agree with Krome, if individual girls are not named then its fine. I can only agree with the girls why work their sweet little asses of for me for a day for ?350 when they can have a Mr Premature 10 minutes and a talk for the same, no photos, no video, no publicity. Except when the Sunday newspapers catch them and the world is told they are are hooker/tart/prostitute. Most of they girls who are looking at a career in adult entertainment know how hard it is to get into the papers and get some good publicity for themselves.
It does not go without risks I have never heard of a girl having her throat cut by and actor or producer.
Lap-dancing seems to be the best way for them if they want the money but not the publicity of appearing on film etc. I know someone who has been offered ?500 a night midweek to lap-dance so they money is there. Insidently she turned it down saying she would dance with a fan for free if she liked him but no money could make her if she didn't.
Now thats a new discusion.
Phil McC
It does not go without risks I have never heard of a girl having her throat cut by and actor or producer.
Lap-dancing seems to be the best way for them if they want the money but not the publicity of appearing on film etc. I know someone who has been offered ?500 a night midweek to lap-dance so they money is there. Insidently she turned it down saying she would dance with a fan for free if she liked him but no money could make her if she didn't.
Now thats a new discusion.
Phil McC
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alec
Re: Escorts and the FAQ
Read the FAQ and do a search. The reasons are basically pre-emptive. Some of the people who post here barely know what allegedly means (as opposed to being unable to spell it) and are quite capable of making the silly argument: you allowed girl A to be mentioned why can't I mention girl B? Mentioning of names is banned. End of argument.
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Rimbaud
Re: Escorts and the FAQ
I think the best reason is that many of these stories are fabricated, or are the result of escort agencies unscrupulously using girls' photos on their websites when those girls blatantly don't escort for them.
It's remarkable how credulous people are...were I a punter I would treat with suspiscion vering on outright disbelief any agency claiming to have a porn star on its books.
Anyway, the proliferation of false escprting stories about named girls pisses them off, and in my view one of the strengths of this site is that many of the girls come here, use it as a medium to communicate with their fans, and have a good relationship with the webmasters and forum users.
That relationship can be jeopardised if the girls come to view this forum as a source of untruths about their activities.
It's remarkable how credulous people are...were I a punter I would treat with suspiscion vering on outright disbelief any agency claiming to have a porn star on its books.
Anyway, the proliferation of false escprting stories about named girls pisses them off, and in my view one of the strengths of this site is that many of the girls come here, use it as a medium to communicate with their fans, and have a good relationship with the webmasters and forum users.
That relationship can be jeopardised if the girls come to view this forum as a source of untruths about their activities.
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alec
Re: Escorts and the FAQ
Exactly. Thanks for that. I didn't have the energy to go through all the arguments again.