Being a Freemason myself i find it quite offensive ACE, by you linking this scumbag to Freemasons. Anyone with a criminal conviction, except motoring offences gets booted out of Freemasonary, and that goes for trying to influence other Masons to pervert the course of justice.
Please do not associate this scumbag with an great charitable organisation, that helps non-masons and masons alike.
Get your facts straight before slagging off something you know little about.
Kryten.
Van Hoogstraten
Re: Van Hoogstraten
"A great charitable organisation".....you must be joking.
Why is it necessary to wear silly aprons, white gloves and tawdry medals in order to do charitable work? The reason most, if not all, Freemasons join is because they think they are going to get something out of it.
Mart
Why is it necessary to wear silly aprons, white gloves and tawdry medals in order to do charitable work? The reason most, if not all, Freemasons join is because they think they are going to get something out of it.
Mart
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Marts correct as I am Kryten. Masons look after their own first and foremost. Checking my facts isn't necessary for that post mate. We 'all' know the score.
As for their 'charitable work', they come 3rd after the Rotary Club and The Lions
As for their 'charitable work', they come 3rd after the Rotary Club and The Lions
The West London of my youth is now on dvd
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
Re: Van Hoogstraten
Never third,Oxfan for Africa,St Bede Trust for homeless , The Little Sisters of the Poor Shelter for those who cannot look after themselves.The list goes on.Whenever you have a position for them well someone wll come along with another charity that does more for non members
Jonboy
Re: Van Hoogstraten
Mart,
Please don't try and criticise something you know bugger all about.
Aprons because our traditions go back to ancient Stonemasons, gloves which were adopted after the first world war as a sign of respect for the war dead. They are not worn by all Masons however. Medals as a sign of respect for different levels of office, nothing more sinister than that, big bleedin' deal.
One of the cornerstones of Freemasonary is Charity. Not all Freemasons are good, we are a reflection of society. However some scumbag like Van Hoofsplaten or whatever, if he was EVER a member, i can assure would have been booted ages ago.
Kryten.
Please don't try and criticise something you know bugger all about.
Aprons because our traditions go back to ancient Stonemasons, gloves which were adopted after the first world war as a sign of respect for the war dead. They are not worn by all Masons however. Medals as a sign of respect for different levels of office, nothing more sinister than that, big bleedin' deal.
One of the cornerstones of Freemasonary is Charity. Not all Freemasons are good, we are a reflection of society. However some scumbag like Van Hoofsplaten or whatever, if he was EVER a member, i can assure would have been booted ages ago.
Kryten.
Re: Van Hoogstraten
Freemasonry attracts suspicion precisely because of its secretiveness.
If all is above board, what's to hide?
If all is above board, what's to hide?
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Van Hoogstraten
python did a sketch about the masons in 70.
Re: Van Hoogstraten
It basically became secretive during WW2, Hitler persecuted Masons, as the organisation was seen as anti Nazi. Before then it was as much part of society as Rotary or Round Table. These days there is a big effort to become an integral part of society once again.
Many of the so called "secretive" bits are freely available for you to find on the Internet and in books, just they won't mean diddly to you. Much of the English used is VERY old fashioned and hardly used these days, but fascinating none the less.
Kryten.
Many of the so called "secretive" bits are freely available for you to find on the Internet and in books, just they won't mean diddly to you. Much of the English used is VERY old fashioned and hardly used these days, but fascinating none the less.
Kryten.
Re: Van Hoogstraten
thought hitler just hated jews,commies,pros and evreybody else.
Re: Van Hoogstraten
I know a bit of the long history of Masonry through an erstwhile interest in the occult, particularly Crowley (think OTO).
I have no problem with any group of individuals wanting privacy- except where influence is apparently exercised at significant levels of our public life.
I have no problem with any group of individuals wanting privacy- except where influence is apparently exercised at significant levels of our public life.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."