Bimmercate wrote "I guess its because we are a fairly new country and this place was formed from immigrants of various backgrounds, that we hang onto our ethnic roots as we do"
America is indeed a young country, other countries more established have settled into a comfortable stupor, Apathy and laziness has set in. America is some what Gungho, like a teenager, but I prefere a country that tries and stands up for itself other then countries that will fold and capitulate. I see a lot of Apathy in the UK not just in politics but in everyday life, there is no get up and go about most of Europe, Old habbits have set in and its stale.
But always be proud of your roots and where you are from, never let anyone bully you into being ashamed of who you are, I am half American and dam proud of it, and people like Micheal Moore will never make me change my mind.
Cate.
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Cate said "I see a lot of Apathy in the UK not just in politics "
What was the turnout in the recent US elections then?
Mart
What was the turnout in the recent US elections then?
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About 120 million people, just under 60 percent of eligible voters in the United States, cast ballots on Tuesday, the highest percentage since 1968, said Curtis Gans, director of the non-partisan Committee for the Study of the American Electorate.
In the 2000 election which led to President George W. Bush's narrow victory over Democrat Al Gore, slightly more than 54 percent of eligible voters, or about 105.4 million, turned out.
President Bill Clinton's re-election bid in 1996 drew just 49 percent of eligible voters, about 96.3 million people. His 1992 challenge to the first President George Bush brought out 55.2 percent of eligible voters, or about 104.4 million.
In the 2000 election which led to President George W. Bush's narrow victory over Democrat Al Gore, slightly more than 54 percent of eligible voters, or about 105.4 million, turned out.
President Bill Clinton's re-election bid in 1996 drew just 49 percent of eligible voters, about 96.3 million people. His 1992 challenge to the first President George Bush brought out 55.2 percent of eligible voters, or about 104.4 million.
Re: Micheal Moore
"You're very, very alone for sticking up for us poor bastard yanks...but we appreciate it. Not everyone in America is a toothless religious redneck that is uneducated, although the rest of the world continues to paint us that way. Too bad...like France...I thought we were friends. Some of us ARE aware of the world around us and don't think that God is an American."
Jesus wept - change the record.
People criticse the American government - not the American population. Anyone who spouts broad characateurs about an entire nation, or who slates an entire nation because of its government's policies is an idiot. Kind of like your views on France.
In what way has the French government's actions over Iraq differed from the US actions towards Britain and France over Suez? And you still winge on about all things French and their lack of "friendship".
Posters here may dislike Bush and his policies - and they may think that your posts are tedious and ill-informed - but that does not make them anti-American. Although it probably does mean that we know how to pronounce anti.
Jesus wept - change the record.
People criticse the American government - not the American population. Anyone who spouts broad characateurs about an entire nation, or who slates an entire nation because of its government's policies is an idiot. Kind of like your views on France.
In what way has the French government's actions over Iraq differed from the US actions towards Britain and France over Suez? And you still winge on about all things French and their lack of "friendship".
Posters here may dislike Bush and his policies - and they may think that your posts are tedious and ill-informed - but that does not make them anti-American. Although it probably does mean that we know how to pronounce anti.
Re: Micheal Moore
People criticse the American government - not the American population. Anyone who spouts broad characateurs about an entire nation, or who slates an entire nation because of its government's policies is an idiot. Kind of like your views on France.
Spook, Bimmercat has a point, people dont just criticse the American Government, I have heard Micheal Moore speaking and he pulls down most American People, apollogising for them, we have an English Newspaper calling 50 something million American's dumb for voting Republican, these sound like broad characteurs to me so people just moaning about the American Government does not cut the ice, I live in the UK and I hear many people calling Americans dumb asses, gun toting idiots, they are the kind comments.
As for France and their so called friendship to the UK, illigal meat embargos, truck strikes that ruin many truck compaines they hold thier government to ransom. I was stuck in France once when A truck strike was on and the back logg of trucks with spoiled meat and goods, the English truck driver begged the French protestors to let them pass they told him to go back to the UK and take his shite with him. The trucker said the French have a lot of hatred for the English, I think this has seeped into the French Government, so any friendship with France ended long ago.
I am not Anti France but lets stop pretending, countries hate eachother, It would not take a lot to start anything between France and the UK, only political wranglings stop anything from spreading.
Cate.
Spook, Bimmercat has a point, people dont just criticse the American Government, I have heard Micheal Moore speaking and he pulls down most American People, apollogising for them, we have an English Newspaper calling 50 something million American's dumb for voting Republican, these sound like broad characteurs to me so people just moaning about the American Government does not cut the ice, I live in the UK and I hear many people calling Americans dumb asses, gun toting idiots, they are the kind comments.
As for France and their so called friendship to the UK, illigal meat embargos, truck strikes that ruin many truck compaines they hold thier government to ransom. I was stuck in France once when A truck strike was on and the back logg of trucks with spoiled meat and goods, the English truck driver begged the French protestors to let them pass they told him to go back to the UK and take his shite with him. The trucker said the French have a lot of hatred for the English, I think this has seeped into the French Government, so any friendship with France ended long ago.
I am not Anti France but lets stop pretending, countries hate eachother, It would not take a lot to start anything between France and the UK, only political wranglings stop anything from spreading.
Cate.
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Re: Micheal Moore
Look at the amount of money that televangelists con out of ordinary people and then tell me there isn't a degree of naivety/stupidity in many Americans. They dismiss the likes of Clinton (with some right) as a snake oil salesman and still keep donating money to those flatulent, ridiculously coiffeured conmen.
Generalisations are dangerous, though.
And I still like many Americans. The government is utter shit, though.
Generalisations are dangerous, though.
And I still like many Americans. The government is utter shit, though.
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Re: Micheal Moore
"people dont just criticse the American Government, I have heard Micheal Moore speaking and he pulls down most American People,"
He is an American - he is entitled to say what he likes. He "pulls down" some American people - in the same way that the boards here criticise chav culture in the UK - but those posters are not anti-British. I apologise to the world for British lager-lout holiday makers, football hooligans and the fact that we've got a terrible prime minister - care to accuse me of being anti-British?
"we have an English Newspaper calling 50 something million American's dumb for voting Republican,"
The tabloid press is written by idiots for idiots - and is a source of shame to many British people. But those who are ashamed are not anti-British.
"As for France and their so called friendship to the UK, illigal meat embargos, truck strikes that ruin many truck compaines they hold thier government to ransom."
I don't agree with everything the French government does - so what, I don't agree with the British government very often?? And French truck drivers are just as entitled to "hold their country to ransom" as the British fuel protestors were. I'm not keeen on America banning our beef and their steel tarriffs - doesn't make me anti-American or Americans anti-British.
"The trucker said the French have a lot of hatred for the English,"
You met a French idiot - well done. And how do you think some British truckers regard the French - or any other foreigners??
"I think this has seeped into the French Government, so any friendship with France ended long ago."
So you missed out on the Entente Cordial celebrations then.
"I am not Anti France but lets stop pretending, countries hate eachother,"
Absolute garbage - a country can't hate - and only a terminally dimwitted individual can hate an entire country.
So then - do you accept that the US government's actions over Suez towards the UK and France were less friendly than France's actions over Iraq towards the UK and the US? Assuming you accept this point, was the US action down to them "hating" the UK and France, did it signal the end of any friendship between the US and the UK, or was it an isolated incident which simply showed that allies can disagree.
He is an American - he is entitled to say what he likes. He "pulls down" some American people - in the same way that the boards here criticise chav culture in the UK - but those posters are not anti-British. I apologise to the world for British lager-lout holiday makers, football hooligans and the fact that we've got a terrible prime minister - care to accuse me of being anti-British?
"we have an English Newspaper calling 50 something million American's dumb for voting Republican,"
The tabloid press is written by idiots for idiots - and is a source of shame to many British people. But those who are ashamed are not anti-British.
"As for France and their so called friendship to the UK, illigal meat embargos, truck strikes that ruin many truck compaines they hold thier government to ransom."
I don't agree with everything the French government does - so what, I don't agree with the British government very often?? And French truck drivers are just as entitled to "hold their country to ransom" as the British fuel protestors were. I'm not keeen on America banning our beef and their steel tarriffs - doesn't make me anti-American or Americans anti-British.
"The trucker said the French have a lot of hatred for the English,"
You met a French idiot - well done. And how do you think some British truckers regard the French - or any other foreigners??
"I think this has seeped into the French Government, so any friendship with France ended long ago."
So you missed out on the Entente Cordial celebrations then.
"I am not Anti France but lets stop pretending, countries hate eachother,"
Absolute garbage - a country can't hate - and only a terminally dimwitted individual can hate an entire country.
So then - do you accept that the US government's actions over Suez towards the UK and France were less friendly than France's actions over Iraq towards the UK and the US? Assuming you accept this point, was the US action down to them "hating" the UK and France, did it signal the end of any friendship between the US and the UK, or was it an isolated incident which simply showed that allies can disagree.