benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
very good film about this.
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
steve56 wrote:
> very good film about this.
Agreed Steve.
And when it's so ridiculously difficult to get prosecutions,it's small wonder there's so much of it.
The case against the Welsh guy took 3 years to compile and God knows how much it cost in man hours.He was clearly guilty and he walks away on some simple legal technicalities.
Of course,it doesn't help when,in his case,it was because apparently the wrong charges were brought ! !clown!
He goes goes home with a big smile on his face and gives further encouragement to those doing it or thinking of having a go.
And we pick up the tab.!annoyed!
Oh,and what a surprise to see a nigerian involved in fraud btw.But at least he got 6 years (probably out in 6 months)
I'm never sure whether these progs are meant to reassure us that something's being done or just depress us frankly.
> very good film about this.
Agreed Steve.
And when it's so ridiculously difficult to get prosecutions,it's small wonder there's so much of it.
The case against the Welsh guy took 3 years to compile and God knows how much it cost in man hours.He was clearly guilty and he walks away on some simple legal technicalities.
Of course,it doesn't help when,in his case,it was because apparently the wrong charges were brought ! !clown!
He goes goes home with a big smile on his face and gives further encouragement to those doing it or thinking of having a go.
And we pick up the tab.!annoyed!
Oh,and what a surprise to see a nigerian involved in fraud btw.But at least he got 6 years (probably out in 6 months)
I'm never sure whether these progs are meant to reassure us that something's being done or just depress us frankly.
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
yeah but the single mum just got 18 months,as there are no more books issued this film was quite old.todge wrote:
> steve56 wrote:
>
> > very good film about this.
>
> Agreed Steve.
> And when it's so ridiculously difficult to get
> prosecutions,it's small wonder there's so much of it.
>
> The case against the Welsh guy took 3 years to compile and God
> knows how much it cost in man hours.He was clearly guilty and
> he walks away on some simple legal technicalities.
> Of course,it doesn't help when,in his case,it was because
> apparently the wrong charges were brought ! !clown!
> He goes goes home with a big smile on his face and gives
> further encouragement to those doing it or thinking of having a
> go.
> And we pick up the tab.!annoyed!
>
> Oh,and what a surprise to see a nigerian involved in fraud
> btw.But at least he got 6 years (probably out in 6 months)
>
> I'm never sure whether these progs are meant to reassure us
> that something's being done or just depress us frankly.
> steve56 wrote:
>
> > very good film about this.
>
> Agreed Steve.
> And when it's so ridiculously difficult to get
> prosecutions,it's small wonder there's so much of it.
>
> The case against the Welsh guy took 3 years to compile and God
> knows how much it cost in man hours.He was clearly guilty and
> he walks away on some simple legal technicalities.
> Of course,it doesn't help when,in his case,it was because
> apparently the wrong charges were brought ! !clown!
> He goes goes home with a big smile on his face and gives
> further encouragement to those doing it or thinking of having a
> go.
> And we pick up the tab.!annoyed!
>
> Oh,and what a surprise to see a nigerian involved in fraud
> btw.But at least he got 6 years (probably out in 6 months)
>
> I'm never sure whether these progs are meant to reassure us
> that something's being done or just depress us frankly.
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
Philip Green. Was it ?1.2 billion he gave his wife, thereby avoiding paying about ?300 million in tax? Still, he's been roundly punished: I see they knighted him in June, but then, of course, no crime has been committed. To call him a thieving cunt would be utterly wrong.
To say that there's an entire stratum of society that pays virtually no tax in the UK and steals every day from this country, enabled by their dashed clever lawyers and accountants, would be preposterous.
Benefit fraud is a problem, but it's not what bothers me.
To say that there's an entire stratum of society that pays virtually no tax in the UK and steals every day from this country, enabled by their dashed clever lawyers and accountants, would be preposterous.
Benefit fraud is a problem, but it's not what bothers me.
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
Phillip Green isn't a thief. He arranges his tax affairs so as to minimise the amount of tax he pays. That's legal and it's his money to start with, legally made, not stolen from anybody. Did you buy Bhs? No, he did, and now he's the one making money from it. If you don't like that, don't do business in his shops. If you can't understand this simple concept then who's the cunt here?
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
Sorry little man, I can't be arsed into entering into an argument; although you calling me a cunt and your attempt to be patronising, sorely tempt me to.
I understand extremely well the concept of tax efficiency. I also understand how diverting monies from income generated in the UK is legally achieved. Personally though I question the validity of laws that permit this, as do many within the Inland Revenue. Nothing changes for fear that the super-rich will pull out of the country if they have to pay tax at normal levels. I am pro-entrepeneurship and profit-making. But I don't see it as in any way acceptable that individuals making obscene amounts of money should be exempt from paying tax simply because their money can buy them that exemption. This level of greed almost defies belief.
Green makes money. In that sense he's a good businessman. Thing is, unfortunately for him his bullying relationships with his suppliers and exploitation of sweat shops in the East are well documented. A lot of people have made money. Few have demonstrated such naked greed, have such an unpleasant track record, and then the brass to set themselves up as a pillar of the community.
Still you stand up and be counted for him, Robches, me old mucker. What a great cause to campaign for. He's a grand role model and a chap who lives by the law of the land. To me though, he's a fucking thief.
I understand extremely well the concept of tax efficiency. I also understand how diverting monies from income generated in the UK is legally achieved. Personally though I question the validity of laws that permit this, as do many within the Inland Revenue. Nothing changes for fear that the super-rich will pull out of the country if they have to pay tax at normal levels. I am pro-entrepeneurship and profit-making. But I don't see it as in any way acceptable that individuals making obscene amounts of money should be exempt from paying tax simply because their money can buy them that exemption. This level of greed almost defies belief.
Green makes money. In that sense he's a good businessman. Thing is, unfortunately for him his bullying relationships with his suppliers and exploitation of sweat shops in the East are well documented. A lot of people have made money. Few have demonstrated such naked greed, have such an unpleasant track record, and then the brass to set themselves up as a pillar of the community.
Still you stand up and be counted for him, Robches, me old mucker. What a great cause to campaign for. He's a grand role model and a chap who lives by the law of the land. To me though, he's a fucking thief.
Re: benefit fraud [bbc1 last night]
>Sorry little man, I can't be arsed into entering into an argument
And then goes on for three paragraphs...
>although you calling me a cunt and your attempt to be patronising, sorely tempt me to.
I didn't call you a cunt, tiny fellow, though if the cap fits..
>Personally though I question the validity of laws that permit this, as do many within the Inland Revenue.
If it's the law it's the law. If you want to change it, stand for Parliament. Your questioning the validity of the law means jack shit and doesn't make Green a thief. Green is not breaking the law as it stands. And people in the Inland Revenue are in favour of more taxes are they? No shit Sherlock.
>He's a grand role model and a chap who lives by the law of the land. To me though, he's a fucking thief.
I never said he was any kind of role model, I said he's not a thief. He might be the world's biggest bastard for all I know, but as far as I am aware his business is legal and his tax affairs are in order, however much you might want the Inland Revenue to get its hands on his money.
Unless you have something to back up your claim that he's a thief, you are clearly taking out of your arse. You don't even seem to know what the word thief means. For your information, a thief steals someone else's money. Phillip Green is legally keeping as much of his lawfully made money as the tax laws permit. He may have more money than you, and you may not like the way he does business. That does not make him a thief does it?
And then goes on for three paragraphs...
>although you calling me a cunt and your attempt to be patronising, sorely tempt me to.
I didn't call you a cunt, tiny fellow, though if the cap fits..
>Personally though I question the validity of laws that permit this, as do many within the Inland Revenue.
If it's the law it's the law. If you want to change it, stand for Parliament. Your questioning the validity of the law means jack shit and doesn't make Green a thief. Green is not breaking the law as it stands. And people in the Inland Revenue are in favour of more taxes are they? No shit Sherlock.
>He's a grand role model and a chap who lives by the law of the land. To me though, he's a fucking thief.
I never said he was any kind of role model, I said he's not a thief. He might be the world's biggest bastard for all I know, but as far as I am aware his business is legal and his tax affairs are in order, however much you might want the Inland Revenue to get its hands on his money.
Unless you have something to back up your claim that he's a thief, you are clearly taking out of your arse. You don't even seem to know what the word thief means. For your information, a thief steals someone else's money. Phillip Green is legally keeping as much of his lawfully made money as the tax laws permit. He may have more money than you, and you may not like the way he does business. That does not make him a thief does it?